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Greg Cosell's take on Kevin White (I personally think he's in play for the Jaguars)

#21

Quote:Yes sir, this RB class is so deep, I can see them getting a guy like TJ Yeldon/David Johnson early in the 3rd. If they go Kevin White at 3, and a defensive player at 36, I can see David trading back into the 2nd round (like he did last year with Allen Robinson) and selecting a RB as well.
 

Yea waiting until all the good RBs are gone would be dumb, trading back in the 2nd and getting an extra 2nd would be ideal 

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#22

Quote:We missed out on Randall Cobb and Demarco Murray in FA, I have a feeling the WR and RB position will be addressed early (possibly 1st & 2nd round) in this draft.


I agree as well. The question could come down to Kevin white at 3 and Jay ajayi at 36 or Todd Gurley(trade down 12 range) and DGB at 36?


I'd go for Gurley and DGB.
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#23

Quote:I agree as well. The question could come down to Kevin white at 3 and Jay ajayi at 36 or Todd Gurley(trade down 12 range) and DGB at 36?


I'd go for Gurley and DGB.
 

Good question, I like Kevin White more than any receiver in this class and feel Jay Ajayi is vastly underrated, a true 3 down back with insane power and sneaky speed. I'd go KW and JA, DGB has too many off the field concerns, I don't feel a team like the Jaguars can take a chance given their WR history.

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#24

Quote:Yea waiting until all the good RBs are gone would be dumb, trading back in the 2nd and getting an extra 2nd would be ideal 
 

If there's a run on RB's in the 2nd round (assuming we didn't take one at 36) I believe Dave will certainly trade back into the round to select a player they covet.

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#25

I still lean Beasley with our pick. But something tells me if we do go WR, Cooper is Dave's guy. Especially since I don't believe we've even had White for a visit yet
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#26

Quote:I still lean Beasley with our pick. But something tells me if we do go WR, Cooper is Dave's guy. Especially since I don't believe we've even had White for a visit yet
 

White (until recently) hasn't had any visits lined up, it's certainly not a way to truly gauge a teams interest. Ian Rapoport compared Kevin White's situation to Tyler Eifert's (also didn't have any visits) a few years ago;

 


<p style="background-color:transparent;">NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport reports that West Virginia WR Kevin White has only one scheduled visit, and it is with the Titans.


"He now has one visit scheduled," Rapoport said Thursday. "He does have one scheduled with the Tennessee Titans, but that is it." The Titans hold the No. 2 overall pick in the draft, though nobody anticipates them pulling the trigger on White with Marcus Mariota and Leonard Williams ostensibly on the board. Where this tidbit gets interesting is in the possibility of Tennessee trading down to a team that wants one of the aforementioned two prospects. "You would think at this point teams would have questions about him but from what I understand, he is as clean a prospect as there is in this draft," Rapoport added. "Just talking to a few general managers, this is reminiscent of Tyler Eifert, the tight end from a few years back. Went in the first round but had no visits or workouts scheduled." White could go as high as No. 4 overall to the Oakland Raiders.

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#27

Quote:Good question, I like Kevin White more than any receiver in this class and feel Jay Ajayi is vastly underrated, a true 3 down back with insane power and sneaky speed. I'd go KW and JA, DGB has too many off the field concerns, I don't feel a team like the Jaguars can take a chance given their WR history.

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4td game in 2013. Reminds me of Alshon Jeffrey.


If DGB didn't have any character concerns then he would be a top 10 lock. At 36 I think he's worth the risk. Just pair him and Julius in the redzone and it's almost unfair.
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#28

Dream scenario: we talk Oakland into giving up a mid-round pick to jump from four to three to ensure that they get White, then trade back again with a team that wants to get Mariota before Washington gets a shot at him. Highly unlikely scenario, but it's fun to speculate this time of year.

 

Of course, that's all assuming that the Raiders are completely sold on White and not interested in Cooper.


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#29

Quote:Dream scenario: we talk Oakland into giving up a mid-round pick to jump from four to three to ensure that they get White, then trade back again with a team that wants to get Mariota before Washington gets a shot at him. Highly unlikely scenario, but it's fun to speculate this time of year.

 

Of course, that's all assuming that the Raiders are completely sold on White and not interested in Cooper.
 

drop to 4 so they can get their WR, then trade with the jets to pick 6 where we can hopefully grab fowler. 

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#30

My dream scenario would be trading down to #7 or #8 with the Falcons/Bears so they can have their choice of pass rushers or Mariota if the Bears want to go there.  Draft Kevin White at #7 or #8, assuming the Raiders don't draft him, and then use the extra ammo we receive to trade up from #36 for Todd Gurley.

 

Your 5 eligible receivers may end up looking like White, Blackmon, Robinson, J.Thomas, and Gurley.  That is an absolute ton of tackle breaking ability.


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#31

Some folks feel DeVante Parker could be as good, if not better.

 

At the same time, there were high hopes by many for size/speed WRs like Darrius Heyward Bey and Stephen Hill, too.

 

People rarely "comp" to the guys who don't work out.  It's always the TO's, etc...


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#32

Quote:Some folks feel DeVante Parker could be as good, if not better.

 

At the same time, there were high hopes by many for size/speed WRs like Darrius Heyward Bey and Stephen Hill, too.

 

People rarely "comp" to the guys who don't work out.  It's always the TO's, etc...
 

Comparing Kevin White to Heyward Bey and Stephen Hill is laughable, besides the elite athleticism the players are nothing alike,

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#33

Heyward-Bey and Stephen Hill have stones for hands and struggle getting out of breaks, both are stiff athletes and are relegated to merely "deep threat" 9-route roles because of it.


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#34

Quote:Comparing Kevin White to Heyward Bey and Stephen Hill is laughable, besides the elite athleticism the players are nothing alike,
 

Actually, the short term production is comparable to Stephen Hill.

 

The hands are not, though.

 

No one is an exact clone of anyone.  Therefore, EVERY "comp" will have it's differences.  Not unlike the "comp" to TO.

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#35

Quote:Some folks feel DeVante Parker could be as good, if not better.

 

At the same time, there were high hopes by many for size/speed WRs like Darrius Heyward Bey and Stephen Hill, too.

 

People rarely "comp" to the guys who don't work out.  It's always the TO's, etc...
 

DHB and Stephen Hill were size/speed guys who were complete projections and below average to poor college production.

 

Kevin White had elite college production, despite QB woes, to go along with his size/speed.

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#36

Quote:Actually, the short term production is comparable to Stephen Hill.

 

The hands are not, though.

 

No one is an exact clone of anyone.  Therefore, EVERY "comp" will have it's differences.  Not unlike the "comp" to TO.
 

Stephen Hill caught 49 passes for 1248 yds and 9 TD's in 3 years at GA tech, Kevin White caught 109 passes for 1447 yds and 10 Td's in one year at West Virginia, even considering the offense GA tech runs there's no comparison.White is clearly the superior player and brings more than just "straight line speed" to the table.

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#37

Quote:Actually, the short term production is comparable to Stephen Hill.

 

The hands are not, though.

 

No one is an exact clone of anyone.  Therefore, EVERY "comp" will have it's differences.  Not unlike the "comp" to TO.
 

What short term production?  Stephen Hill never had more than 29 catches in a season.  Kevin White had more than double Stephen Hill's 3 year college career receptions in just the last season alone.

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#38

Quote:What short term production?  Stephen Hill never had more than 29 catches in a season.  Kevin White had more than double Stephen Hill's 3 year college career receptions in just the last season alone.
 

I like Pirk but he hasn't a clue of what he's talking about on this one.

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#39

Quote:I like Pirk but he hasn't a clue of what he's talking about on this one.
 

Yeah.  There is a big difference between those three.  DHB and Hill were off-the-radar candidates that shot up during the offseason because of fast 40's.  DHB was probably a mid round prospect before the 40 and Hill was borderline draftable.  Kevin White has been considered a 1st rounder all year long and then solidified himself with his workouts.

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#40

Quote:Yeah.  There is a big difference between those three.  DHB and Hill were off-the-radar candidates that shot up during the offseason because of fast 40's.  DHB was probably a mid round prospect before the 40 and Hill was borderline draftable.  Kevin White has been considered a 1st rounder all year long and then solidified himself with his workouts.
 

Exactly, DHB was wildly inconsistent at Maryland and no one knew much about Stephen Hill until he ran his 40 after the combine, the Raiders and Jets were suckered into taking those two players in the 1st & 2nd round respectively. I remember watching the 2009 draft (we through draft parties back in college when it was on Saturdays) and called the DHB pick to the Raiders at pick 7 haha, I was joking and was shocked when the Raiders took him. 

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