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Gruden - Former Jags comment (MERGED)
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I'll try to put together a former Jaguars offensive roster, but it won't be quite as solid...
QB Blaine Gabbert RB Justin Forsett RB Rashad Jennings WR Cecil Shorts III WR Kevin Elliott TE Zach Miller (Bears) LT Josh Wells LG Uche Nwaneri (or Jacques McClendon) C Dan Connolly RG Drew Nowak RT Austin Pasztor Connolly retired this past season, but he's healthy and would still be a top C. I'd like to put Eugene Monroe at LT, but he's been nothing but injury prone since leaving the Jaguars and the Ravens are thinking of moving on eating a bunch of dead money. The best names on here are Forsett, Jennings, Z. Miller, Nowak and Shorts. Wells is going to make it tough for Gabs to stay healthy, but he'll just need to tough it out. Some of you may recall the undrafted Kevin Elliot trying to make the roster. He's now a TD scoring machine for the Toronto Argonauts.
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General managers should have a 100% record when it comes to draft picks and they should be able to know exactly how a player will develop or regress from year to year.
Anything less just isn't good enough IMO. Quote:Marshall is a good role player. Without Miller, Ware, and Trevathian he's just a guy. Smith while playing at a high level is unfortunately old. He wouldn't have made much, if any change to our win total the past 3 years and we'd be looking for his replacement in this year's draft anyway. Laurent Robinson? Dawan Landry? These guys can be picked up by any team at any time.
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Quote:Laurent Robinson? Dawan Landry? That's my point.
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We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! Quote:His weight played a major issue which apparently our coaching staff couldn't keep under management. You mean basically the same coach he had in Denver? Ok Pal
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Quote:General managers should have a 100% record when it comes to draft picks and they should be able to know exactly how a player will develop or regress from year to year.. I'm sensing sarcasm here. I hope so, or this needs a nomination for stupidity level 1,000.
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Quote:He's been starting at FS for the Bengals ever since he was traded. Reggie Nelson was terrible in Jacksonville. Even the crystal ball said he was a bust. It was time to move on.
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It's also taken Nelson a decade to play at a high level hardly some huge mistake
Quote:I'll try to put together a former Jaguars offensive roster, but it won't be quite as solid... Josh Wells is still on the team, he is just on IR.
Quote:Yep. because the coaching staff decides when a grown adult man is allowed to eatIf its contractual they can. Like many models have that in their contracts. Some high end restaurants hire waitresses as models instead of food servers so they can put that in their contract and fire them if they don't follow it. Some other places like hooters etc. also do this.
You either die as a good poster, or live long enough to become the troll.
We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! Quote:It's also taken Nelson a decade to play at a high level hardly some huge mistake I didn't blame the Jags for the move at the time. Nelson obviously wasn't working out how many had hoped he would at that point. But, he has been really good for Cincy for about 4-5 years now, so it's not like he just came out of nowhere to be really good just this season.
Quote:How did Nelson get so good ? #passrush Cyp and others will look a lot better once we have a consistent pass rush as well.
Quote:Reggie Nelson's departure was celebrated by the crux of the message board, and we laughed at those silly Bengal for picking him up.This is close to how I remember it. I, for one, thought he was playing better towards the end here. But he had such a huge knack for taking terrible angles and missing game changing tackles at the end of games that it seemed like a foregone conclusion that he was done here. I remember a game he did for us against the colts in 2010, I believe, when we had like 8 wins and would have the division if we won. Reggie took a bad angle on a long completion, missed a tackle allowing the TD and a loss. We had been on a winning streak before that with many people picking us to win the game. It became very hard to defend him after gamechanging plays like that. I think there was a portion of the board that thought he was getting better, but no one thought he was good enough. Its also true the majority of the board wanted him gone, several of whom are above claiming they didn't (good thing the old boards gone, so no one can check you). No one was thrilled with getting David Cox for him, we all wondered about the pick (which became nothing). And ever since leaving us Nelson suddenly played better, finished tackles, and continued getting TO's (which he did for us as well). His was almost certainly a coaching/scheme issue (and I like JDR, but this one has to be on him/the staff). Either way, when he left it was a foregone conclusion that he wasn't who we needed him to be. He had been here 4 years and just hadn't turned the corner. Even me (who liked him), couldn't say much when we traded him, it was obvious that he had blown one too many coverages/been burned for one too many TD's. Yes, it's improvement, but it's Blaine Gabbert 2012 level improvement. - Pirkster The Home Hypnotist! Media on the Brain Link! Quote:Peyton must store oxygen in that forehead of his. No way I'd still be alive after all that choking. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
Quote:That's because the Bengals would coach him up and hold him accountable for blown coverages and taking bad angles.Actually now that you say this, Cyprien is having the same problems Reggie did. Holy cow, we better not trade him. Yes, it's improvement, but it's Blaine Gabbert 2012 level improvement. - Pirkster The Home Hypnotist! Media on the Brain Link! Quote:Peyton must store oxygen in that forehead of his. No way I'd still be alive after all that choking.
Quote:Nelson or Marshall were never going be successful in Jax because the teams they played on were not good enough. Neither guy is the type of player who will be a stud regardless of the talent around him. They are both solid players now who are thriving on very talented defenses. They are not the driving force behind their defense's success though, rather they benefit from great players around them.Nelson leads the league in Int, he is a stud on that D. Yes, it's improvement, but it's Blaine Gabbert 2012 level improvement. - Pirkster The Home Hypnotist! Media on the Brain Link! Quote:Peyton must store oxygen in that forehead of his. No way I'd still be alive after all that choking.
Quote:solid D, Mathis over BlackmonI don't know, I don't count Mathis as a former Jag, I mean we let him go, but he spent the career here, hes still a jag to me. Yes, it's improvement, but it's Blaine Gabbert 2012 level improvement. - Pirkster The Home Hypnotist! Media on the Brain Link! Quote:Peyton must store oxygen in that forehead of his. No way I'd still be alive after all that choking. |
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