It's worth nothing so good for you.

Sounds good.  Appreciate the advice.  :yes:

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Sounds good.  Appreciate the advice.  :yes:

lol

 

I mean what does it actually mean to say you were right about a player?

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lol

 

I mean what does it actually mean to say you were right about a player?

The point I was making was even though I liked Beasley more, I think Fowler can be a productive player.  I wasn't trying to say "I told you so" to anyone.

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Here's the real gem... we took Bryan Anger---the Punter that is now on the Bucs, before Russell Wilson.

lol, I'm well aware of who we drafted and when. I was being blatantly sarcastic in those previous posts.

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It's cute how you think you can take 10 seconds to google a stat line and think you evaluated a player.

 

Everyone knows Mack had a great rookie season.

It's cute how you're both arrogant and smitten.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

It's cute how you're both arrogant and smitten.

Mack, of course, didn't have a great rookie year. Dude barely got playing time for a while of it. Not sure why he has to push the fantastic rookie year line unless this is his way in saying he's right about Fowler without waiting until next year.

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lol, I'm well aware of who we drafted and when. I was being blatantly sarcastic in those previous posts.

With the 183rd pick in the 2000 NFL Draft, the Cleveland Browns select...


Spergon Wynn, QB, Southwest Texas State



With the 196th pick in the 2000 NFL Draft, the Jacksonville Jaguars select...


Emanuel Smith, WR, Arkansas.


With the 199th pick of the 2000 NFL Draft the Patriots changed the course of history.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Mack, of course, didn't have a great rookie year. Dude barely got playing time for a while of it. Not sure why he has to push the fantastic rookie year line unless this is his way in saying he's right about Fowler without waiting until next year.

Your last is his whole point in this thread, DFJ will never eclipse his man crush because reasons. It's settled.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

It's cute how you're both arrogant and smitten.

 

The only thing that gets me smitten:

 

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We really have multiple people who think Mack didn't have a great first season? I am shocked at this...

 

Well I should say I am shocked but people also think Vic had a bad rookie season when it was very good, and Mack's was better than Beasley's. 

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Looks like a pretty good rookie year to me!

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We really have multiple people who think Mack didn't have a great first season? I am shocked at this...

 

Well I should say I am shocked but people also think Vic had a bad rookie season when it was very good, and Mack's was better than Beasley's. 

 

He was good for a rookie (at times) and that's all that was. He wasn't great.

 

I'm honestly surprised that anyone is saying he had a great rookie year. Many Falcons fans were in the same place with him as we are with Fowler. 

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Looks like a pretty good rookie year to me!

 

What is that from?

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What is that from?

Mack. That's who we are debating at the moment. 

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He was good for a rookie (at times) and that's all that was. He wasn't great.

 

I'm honestly surprised that anyone is saying he had a great rookie year. Many Falcons fans were in the same place with him as we are with Fowler. 

I was using great for Mack, not Vic. Beasley had a very good rookie season, showing consistent ability to get to the QB but not quite finish...and he was negative against the run. Mack showed off both pass rush ability and was good against the run. Both of them showed exactly what you want to see to know they were going to be stud pass rushers. Fowler is not giving any of those flashes at all. His only success is coming from unblocked stunts.

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Mack. That's who we are debating at the moment. 

 

No, from where?

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I was using great for Mack, not Vic. Beasley had a very good rookie season, showing consistent ability to get to the QB but not quite finish...and he was negative against the run. Mack showed off both pass rush ability and was good against the run. Both of them showed exactly what you want to see to know they were going to be stud pass rushers. Fowler is not giving any of those flashes at all. His only success is coming from unblocked stunts.

 

Well, then that's my fault for confusing the two.

 

Not sure I'd call it great but it was pretty good. 

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No, from where?

It's PFF, but it's not a secret that Mack was a pressure monster and stout against the run in his rookie season. It was painfully obvious he was the total package from the get go.

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With the 183rd pick in the 2000 NFL Draft, the Cleveland Browns select...


Spergon Wynn, QB, Southwest Texas State



With the 196th pick in the 2000 NFL Draft, the Jacksonville Jaguars select...


Emanuel Smith, WR, Arkansas.


With the 199th pick of the 2000 NFL Draft the Patriots changed the course of history.

 

   The following story relates to what you mentioned,  in that the AFC East could have been vastly different in the first part of the 21st Century.   It's off topic at least to some extent but in some ways ties into this thread's prime topic and many,  many others on the Forum:

 

  The untold story of how Tom Brady was almost drafted by the NY Jets


 

  http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/footba...-1.1975792

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With the 183rd pick in the 2000 NFL Draft, the Cleveland Browns select...


Spergon Wynn, QB, Southwest Texas State



With the 196th pick in the 2000 NFL Draft, the Jacksonville Jaguars select...


Emanuel Smith, WR, Arkansas.


With the 199th pick of the 2000 NFL Draft the Patriots changed the course of history.

Coughlin should be fired for this, oh wait...

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