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David4499 · 12-30-2013, 03:09 PM

20K TMD REPLIES ARE TWO WORDS OR LESS... NOT EVEN COMPLETE THOUGHTS... JUST KEEPS HITTING THE POST BUTTON I GUESS....

I ain't no monkey... I'm an ape. Banana

Deacon · 12-30-2013, 03:13 PM

I don't think I have the stomach to read through this entire thread, but I had zero problems with Fisch's playcalling yesterday.

The pass to Sanders on Fourth down was wide open due to the design when pretty much everyone knew that the team was going to have a slant and out combination out of that cluster formation. Henne just missed the pass.
He got Marcedes in single coverage versus a safety and he was open with no one within about 15 yards of him late in the first half. Again, I feel as if you can lay the blame for this on Henne for not taking advantage of the situation.
He got Sanders open again on the edge, but Henne missed the pass and threw it over his head.

I have no issues with Fisch's playcalling, it's the players underperforming yesterday that gets under my skin.

I'm trying to make myself more informed and less opinionated.

Stop saying whatever stupid thing you're talking about and pay attention to all the interesting things I have to say!

J-Mizzal · 12-30-2013, 03:13 PM

Quote:I agree, Bradley won't fire him, or any of his assitants for that matter. He's too loyal, IMO. Were stuck with an overwhelmingly bad assistant staff. There might be 2 or 3 actual keepers on the entire staff.

He's too loyal? The guy has only been a HC one year, you dont know that much about him plz stop

Jags this is your year

~~The Mad Dog~~ · 12-30-2013, 03:26 PM

Quote:He's too loyal? The guy has only been a HC one year, you dont know that much about him plz stop

I didn't make the definitive statement of "he's too loyal". I said thats the vibe I get. Thats my opinion for how I see him operating as this all plays out.

SuperJville · 12-30-2013, 03:28 PM

The vibe we get is that you, TMD, are a negative nancy

Bullseye · 12-30-2013, 03:29 PM

Quote:I didn't make the definitive statement of "he's too loyal". I said thats the vibe I get. Thats my opinion for how I see him operating as this all plays out.

But what gives you that vibe after one year as a head coach for Bradley?

Worst to 1st. Curse Reversed!

~~The Mad Dog~~ · 12-30-2013, 03:48 PM

Quote:The vibe we get is that you, TMD, are a negative nancy

I won't deny that I have been conditioned to have a negative outlook regarding this franchise. 14 years of mostly bad decisions and bad football will do that to a person.

Quote: But what gives you that vibe after one year as a head coach for Bradley?

His persona, what he preaches to the team and the kind of players coach he is. I think relationships are important to him, and committment is important to him. While these are all noble traits, they can be a curse if you hired some of the wrong assistants to begin with because he'll be sticking with people that aren't good enough.

Kane · 12-30-2013, 03:52 PM

"I've been conditioned" The Jaguars have made him this way...

If they are so abusive to you why don't you go "be a fan" of another team.

I heard the wagon is plenty empty over there for the Houston "tankers"

Jags32250 · 12-30-2013, 04:36 PM

Quote:I don't think I have the stomach to read through this entire thread, but I had zero problems with Fisch's playcalling yesterday.

The pass to Sanders on Fourth down was wide open due to the design when pretty much everyone knew that the team was going to have a slant and out combination out of that cluster formation. Henne just missed the pass.

He got Marcedes in single coverage versus a safety and he was open with no one within about 15 yards of him late in the first half. Again, I feel as if you can lay the blame for this on Henne for not taking advantage of the situation.

He got Sanders open again on the edge, but Henne missed the pass and threw it over his head.

I have no issues with Fisch's playcalling, it's the players underperforming yesterday that gets under my skin.

Agreed.

Jags32250 · 12-30-2013, 04:36 PM

Quote:If they are so abusive to you why don't you go "be a fan" of another team.

I heard the wagon is plenty empty over there for the Houston "tankers"

Could we all be so lucky?

kenudo · 12-30-2013, 04:42 PM

I think Fisch is creative enough to intrigue you but not efficient enough to get the job done.

Bullseye · 12-30-2013, 04:47 PM

Quote:

His persona, what he preaches to the team and the kind of players coach he is. I think relationships are important to him, and committment is important to him. While these are all noble traits, they can be a curse if you hired some of the wrong assistants to begin with because he'll be sticking with people that aren't good enough.

(emphasis added)

But at this point, you don't know whether he hired the wrong assistants because the roster was so depleted.

It's the day after his first season ended.

Worst to 1st. Curse Reversed!

~~The Mad Dog~~ · 12-30-2013, 04:51 PM

Quote:(emphasis added)

But at this point, you don't know whether he hired the wrong assistants because the roster was so depleted.

It's the day after his first season ended.

While this may be true for some of the position coaches....

I disagree regarding the Coordinators, Babich and Fisch. They are and were weak hires. Babich's resume has mediocrity at DC in the past, even with talent, when he was with the Bears.

and Fisch bounced around the college ranks as he was unable to keep consistent work.

Jags32250 · 12-30-2013, 04:57 PM

Quote:Fisch bounced around the college ranks as he was unable to keep consistent work.

Wrong, he got better jobs and worked his way up. It's how smart people approach careers.

You know one day, just maybe you can work that cash register and leave the bagging duties in the dust if you play it right!

Shack Del Rio · 12-30-2013, 05:04 PM

Quote:

and Fisch bounced around the college ranks as he was unable to keep consistent work.

Just making stuff up at this point?

~~The Mad Dog~~ · 12-30-2013, 05:04 PM

Quote:Wrong, he got better jobs and worked his way up. It's how smart people approach careers.

You know one day, just maybe you can work that cash register and leave the bagging duties in the dust if you play it right!

Yes, this reads like someone that did a real good job in the college ranks.... Laughing

http://givehellgoldy.blogspot.com/2009/1...needs.html

thunderbuns · 12-30-2013, 05:06 PM

Quote:

and Fisch bounced around the college ranks as he was unable to keep consistent work.

From what nether regions of your rear end did you pull this gem?

thunderbuns · 12-30-2013, 05:09 PM

Fisch had three jobs in college. He was a GA at UF, QB Coach at Minnesota and OC at Miami. Either you don't know what bouncing around means or you don't understand how colllege coaching works. I am guessing a little of both.

hailtoyourvictor · 12-30-2013, 05:23 PM

Quote:Yes, this reads like someone that did a real good job in the college ranks....

http://givehellgoldy.blogspot.com/2009/1...needs.html

TMD would source Blogspot.

**NYC4jags** · 12-30-2013, 05:33 PM

Those assuming that Bradley will not fire Fisch or any other coaches out of "loyalty" are doing so blindly, IMO. I see no reason to believe Bradley/Caldwell wouldn't shake up the staff a bit if they perceive a weakness.

I doubt Fisch gets the axe - but it wouldn't surprise me if he did. You have a staff put together by a couple of first timers and they may not hit home runs on every hire. I think they are both wise enough to correct a mistake when and if they've made one.