What is going to happen to the MSM if Trump brings this up? They have basically said we don't believe her after parading all these women out against Republicans.

The difference between Trump and Biden is, Trump has bragged about doing the thing Biden is denying.  So, how can Republicans attack Biden for doing something Trump has bragged about doing?

You know he didn’t actually brag about doing that. Besides, even if you believed he did, it’s never been seen or proven. You can google Biden and see dozens of examples of inappropriate contact with women and even little girls. There’s more to substantiate the claims against Biden than Trump. 

For the record, I’m not saying I believe her but they’re certainly not #BelieveAllWomen

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For those of you accusing the mainstream media of ignoring this, there are three articles in the Washington Post today alone.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/...story.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/...story.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/...oborators/

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For those of you accusing the mainstream media of ignoring this, there are three articles in the Washington Post today alone.  

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/...story.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/...story.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/...oborators/

Only $49 per year to read the scribbling Langley fabulists?  Such a bargain.  But I get mine from Adam Schiff for free.

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For those of you accusing the mainstream media of ignoring this, there are three articles in the Washington Post today alone.  

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/...story.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/...story.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/...oborators/

You posted your proof behind a paywall? Really?

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The difference between Trump and Biden is, Trump has bragged about doing the thing Biden is denying.  So, how can Republicans attack Biden for doing something Trump has bragged about doing?

This is a LIE!

First off, Trump never claimed he did it himself. He said "you" could do it. We don't know if Trump actually did it or if he was just repeating what someone else told him,but he did not brag about DOING it.

Secondly, Trump's statement was that they would LET YOU do it. It's not sexual assault if consent is involved. Tara Reade claims she did not give consent.

Uggh.

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I saw this neighbor woman said she believes the story is true but supports Biden for President regardless.
She's clearly saying there are worse things in the world than being harassed in this manner.  I'm not a woman, so I wouldn't know.

Funny how the matter becomes no big deal when the shoe is on the other foot. I'm betting almost all of those [BLEEP] hat wearing protesters will vote for Biden.

The difference between Trump and Biden is, Trump has bragged about doing the thing Biden is denying.  So, how can Republicans attack Biden for doing something Trump has bragged about doing?

You know he didn’t actually brag about doing that. Besides, even if you believed he did, it’s never been seen or proven. You can google Biden and see dozens of examples of inappropriate contact with women and even little girls. There’s more to substantiate the claims against Biden than Trump. 

For the record, I’m not saying I believe her but they’re certainly not #BelieveAllWomen

For anyone who needs clarification on exactly what Trump said, I'll leave this right here (*Wikipedia link - warning: profanity in the transcript*). 

I'm not defending Biden in this situation, but man...the amount of wriggling you guys do to defend/deflect Trump's misogyny is, honestly, kind of amazing. Not surprising, I suppose, but amazing nonetheless.

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I'll play you in ping pong. 

You all can debate each and every topic related to the November election but I honestly think there is 1 driving force that will determine how people will vote.  The ECONOMY is the end all be all for the "center aligned" voters in the swing states.

If this economy is continuing to progress in November and people feel as if they can get their lives back together work-wise and financially, Trump wins.   If we have another "major" setback and small business owners go bankrupt, corporate america continues its layoffs, and the stock market plunges, Biden Wins.   I can't take another market collapse or unemployment so if the former happens, I'm good with that.  I already told my wife I'm considering not voting (as I don't think I can fill in the Trump bubble just yet).  I'm not sold on Biden's financial capabilities when it comes to dealing with the implications of this pandemic or even dealing with Xi over the next 4 years.

I think I need to provide a disclaimer that I'm posting this as the Dow Implied Open is at 509 and my S&P500 is at 63 ....  both set to open at a 2%+ increase  

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You all can debate each and every topic related to the November election but I honestly think there is 1 driving force that will determine how people will vote.  The ECONOMY is the end all be all for the "center aligned" voters in the swing states.

If this economy is continuing to progress in November and people feel as if they can get their lives back together work-wise and financially, Trump wins.   If we have another "major" setback and small business owners go bankrupt, corporate america continues its layoffs, and the stock market plunges, Biden Wins.   I can't take another market collapse or unemployment so if the former happens, I'm good with that.  I already told my wife I'm considering not voting (as I don't think I can fill in the Trump bubble just yet).  I'm not sold on Biden's financial capabilities when it comes to dealing with the implications of this pandemic or even dealing with Xi over the next 4 years.

While I agree that the economy is the driving factor, my belief is that nobody is truly on the fence anymore about whether to vote Biden or Trump. It's about whether they want to vote. 

I believe that if the DNC didn't crap the bed in 2016, dem voters wouldn't have felt disenfranchised enough to vote. Also, does Biden motivate black voters? Five Thirty Eight tells the story pretty clearly. I don't believe Trump has expanded his base. He'll win if 2016 is replicated in terms of turnout. He'll lose if turnout is similar to 2012.

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I'll play you in ping pong. 

On a side note, I find it hilarious that Hillary waited until Biden was fist deep in a sexual assualt allegation before endorsing him. The timing is just too good. Old habits die hard, I guess.

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For those of you accusing the mainstream media of ignoring this, there are three articles in the Washington Post today alone.  

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/...story.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/...story.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/...oborators/

You posted your proof behind a paywall? Really?

Sorry, I thought they gave you a certain number of free articles per month.  But you can read the subject matter in the link.  

"me too movement is on the democratic foot" 
"Democrats react to biden accusations with pleas for an explanation, or silence"
"sexual accusations against Joe Biden- corroborators"  

I'm not trying to "prove" anything, I'm just trying to point out that it is not true that the mainstream media is ignoring this.

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You posted your proof behind a paywall? Really?

Sorry, I thought they gave you a certain number of free articles per month.  But you can read the subject matter in the link.  

"me too movement is on the democratic foot" 
"Democrats react to biden accusations with please for an explanation, or silence"
"sexual accusations against Joe Biden- corroborators"  

I'm not trying to "prove" anything, I'm just trying to point out that it is not true that the mainstream media is ignoring this.

It's not treated nearly the same without the R next to the name.

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Sorry, I thought they gave you a certain number of free articles per month.  But you can read the subject matter in the link.  

"me too movement is on the democratic foot" 
"Democrats react to biden accusations with please for an explanation, or silence"
"sexual accusations against Joe Biden- corroborators"  

I'm not trying to "prove" anything, I'm just trying to point out that it is not true that the mainstream media is ignoring this.

It's not treated nearly the same without the R next to the name.

And there are many articles in the mainstream media that point out the hypocrisy of many democrats when it comes to this allegation.   

I get the idea that some people's opinion leaders tell them the mainstream media is ignoring the story, and since they don't read the mainstream media, they believe it.

Here's one from the left-wing Huffington Post: 
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/me-too-ta...8313363010

Here's one on CNN:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/28/politics/...index.html

I can find 6 articles about it in the New York Times within the last 2 weeks. 
https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2020/04...Position=6

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Sorry, I thought they gave you a certain number of free articles per month.  But you can read the subject matter in the link.  

"me too movement is on the democratic foot" 
"Democrats react to biden accusations with please for an explanation, or silence"
"sexual accusations against Joe Biden- corroborators"  

I'm not trying to "prove" anything, I'm just trying to point out that it is not true that the mainstream media is ignoring this.

It's not treated nearly the same without the R next to the name.

Fox News and Rush certainly want you to believe that.
Comes across as whining, to me.
I mean, no two situations are ever exactly the same anyways.  This doesn't change either of our votes, nor the vote of anyone on this board, right? So why complain?

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Why can't we just get this over with and have the election next week? Ugh.
I'd rather know which of the two candidates people prefer and which will lead, than endure another 6 months of them talking past eachother without changing anyone's minds...

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

My personal position is, accusing someone of something that happened many years or even decades ago, when there was no police report, and no charge filed at the time, is very very thin and should not be used to disqualify someone, whether it's Brett Kavanaugh or Joe Biden or Clarence Thomas. These charges always come up at the most convenient time for the opposition. And BOTH sides react in whatever way advances their interests. I'm pretty tired of it.

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My personal position is, accusing someone of something that happened many years or even decades ago, when there was no police report, and no charge filed at the time, is very very thin and should not be used to disqualify someone, whether it's Brett Kavanaugh or Joe Biden or Clarence Thomas.  These charges always come up at the most convenient time for the opposition.  And BOTH sides react in whatever way advances their interests.  I'm pretty tired of it.

So you don't buy into the whole " I didn't have the confidence or was scared to come forward when it happened"? 

It's never good when your own playbook is used against you, but it should be expected.

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It's not treated nearly the same without the R next to the name.

And there are many articles in the mainstream media that point out the hypocrisy of many democrats when it comes to this allegation.   

I get the idea that some people's opinion leaders tell them the mainstream media is ignoring the story, and since they don't read the mainstream media, they believe it.

Here's one from the left-wing Huffington Post: 
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/me-too-ta...8313363010

Here's one on CNN:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/28/politics/...index.html

I can find 6 articles about it in the New York Times within the last 2 weeks. 
https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2020/04...Position=6

From your first link:

Reade said then-Senator Biden assaulted her in 1993 while she was serving as an aide. In a podcast interview with Katie Halper in March, Reade said he kissed her and penetrated her with his fingers without her consent.

So the MSM sat on this for a WHOLE MONTH before finally writing articles, not on the validity of the accusation, but on how it can be swept aside by the "Believe all women" crowd.

Yeah, exactly the same way they treated Kavanaugh.

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"Why should I give information to you when all you want to do is find something wrong with it?"

I agree. Context matters.

I am glad we, as a society, have re-framed the discussion around sexual assault. I think it goes too far at times, but, overall, it is a step in the right direction. When I think of the allegations made against Trump and Biden, then consider the era in which they were living, it lessens the severity of the accusation. This is not to say it was acceptable, but, rather, the culture had a different perception of what was right and wrong. Go back and watch all the Hollywood black and whites. These dudes grew up watching men "take" women who were sassy or interested in them. I think there was a certain belief that women wanted to be taken in that manner. Some did. Some didn't. If a man thought a woman was interested, he asserted himself towards her with the belief that this is what she wanted. I think we, as men, benefit from living in an era where we are taught that is not as acceptable, so that if we were to do something similar, there would be no possible excuse for it. If Trump or Biden were to do something similar now, there would be no excuse for it. However, looking back, we can clearly see it was wrong, but it's hard to hold someone in the past to our current standard.

On the flip side, I believe that this type of assault is more common, even in the past, with men who had power. This could be, in part, due to more women being drawn to them, but it could also be driven by a sense of entitlement. I feel like it's appropriate to challenge those who have power, even when looking back, because it serves as an example to everyone that it's not ok, even if you're among the elite. To those who did made the mistake in a different cultural period, I think an public apology is warranted and adequate. This reinforces the behaviors that current society wants to embrace, and juxtaposes it against a time when people didn't have such concerns. To those who made the mistake within the current conditions, they need to be removed from office and shunned publicly.

In the instance of Tara Reade, the culture had not quite shifted. 93 was prior to the Clinton accusations, but it was after the Clarence Thomas allegations (which were much less severe that what is being claimed against Biden). Biden lead the bipartisan hearing against Thomas that resulted in him voting against Thomas as a Supreme Court Justice. This means Biden took a position, prior to the incident with Reade, that it was unacceptable to make unwanted sexual advances towards women, and the result should be removal from office. I think it would be hard for Biden or his supporters to use a cultural defense with this information in mind.

This is a not good thing for conservatives, though. Biden alienated the progressives as he secured his bid for the Presidency. He is showing signs of dementia. Trump was virtually a lock to beat him. If the DNC can convince Biden to step down due to health reasons, they can run their convention early, hand pick the VP (one that hasn't alienated progressives), and appoint that person as the Presidential nominee according to their by-laws. This could actually energize their base. I'd be very concerned about how the DNC plays this down the stretch. Things are set up perfectly for them to hand pick Trump's opponent without a democratic process, condemn Biden for his assault, and blame Trump for his choices that lead to either American deaths or economic collapse.

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https://www.theonion.com/republicans-rid...1843160385

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

Donald Trump has been asked more questions about Bidens sexual assault than Joe Biden has been asked. One.

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https://www.theonion.com/republicans-rid...1843160385

Attempted humor isnt a good look for you.

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https://www.theonion.com/republicans-rid...1843160385

Attempted humor isnt a good look for you.

I am much less interesting and less funny and worse looking than the authors of theonion, I admit.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

https://www.theonion.com/republicans-rid...1843160385

More accurate

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"Why should I give information to you when all you want to do is find something wrong with it?"