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(06-09-2017, 02:00 PM)Bullseye Wrote: Don't go so soon.

I'd like to hear some of the rationales for your decisions.

Why Lamp over Robinson?  Was the trade up cost not worth Robinson, were you scared away by Robinson's off field stuff, was G a bigger need, do you think Lamp is a better player...or what?

Why Webb over Smoot?

I'll try and help because I and NYC had similar tastes. 

We gave Seattle a value pick so they wouldn't take Robinson. That's why pick swaps happen this way (This is also how you can explain the niners/bears trade - The Niners at least convinced Chicago that they were taking Trubinskiy at 3). I believe that Robinson will be a better Guard in the NFL because of his lack of footwork and Lamp projects as a better guard than Robinson. I don't believe Robinson will be a premier LT and I believe 32 GM's felt this way. Character concerns or not, this draft showed us that teams are really not worried to take risks on premium talent if they believe that it exists. - Overall, keeping the 6th rounder means a developmental player or starting special teams player. I don't dislike the pick at all, but would have deviated in a different direction

Now, I know the general consensus is to start making sense of the Smoot pick, but I was pretty blunt in my dislike for the pick. Webb is equally a risky pick- I think he would have provided a spark in Bortles as well as a developmental Insurance Policy. Even if the season imploded and the Jags have a top 5 pick again, they'd have a chance at a QB and still have an impressive Arm behind him. Webb is an impressive prospect and went to a good situation. Webb is clearly an arm talent, system QB at this point. I very well believe that Webb will be starting games in New Jersey in the next few years.

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Thanks for the explanation, though I'm not sure I buy the part in bold.

If all 32 teams felt Robinson would be a better G than Tackle, and that devalued him in Seattle's eyes, then the Jaguars wouldn't have had to trade up for him, even if just for a 6th round pick.  If Seattle did not like Robinson as a T, there would have been no need to convince them not to take them.  If Seattle had to be bribed not to take him, then they had to feel he had the ability to help them, which kind of negates your premise.  In fact, everything the Jaguars have said up until now has indicated their first choice is to play him at LT, which definitely negates your premise that all 32 teams saw him more as a G than a T.  If the Jaguars felt they had to trade up to ensure they got their guy, then they may have felt someone else was looking to deal up to get him, which means perhaps someone else thought he could play LT.

But again, Seattles moves in that round were puzzling.  They needed OL help, and they traded away from Lamp and Robinson when both seemed to be scheme fits for them.

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