(07-12-2017, 11:14 AM)The Real Marty Wrote:

(07-12-2017, 10:06 AM)MalabarJag Wrote: You are putting 1 and 1 together, and then adding a 7 that's not there to get 9.

The claim that the Russian government supported Trump wasn't from Russia, it was from a British tabloid journalist, who was proved to be lying to Junior.

The Russians may have tried to influence the election according to US intelligence agencies (who have been wrong in the past, so what they say is not fact ), but the intelligence agencies haven't actually said Russian action was in favor of Trump. That's just spin the leftist media is putting on it. If anything, Russia would have preferred Hillary as POTUS, and any interference or attempted interference in the election would have been to create internal US disarray afterwards, not to try and elect a guy who everyone 'knew' had no chance of winning. The leftist media you subscribe to is doing Putin's work for him.

Junior thought he was getting dirt on Hillary. When you are running for office and someone who appears credible offers to provide you with dirt on your opponent, you ALWAYS listen. Should Junior have been more skeptical? Sure. This just proves he's a gullible fool, but relatives of POTUS have frequently been that.

Jesus.  Can we at least stipulate to the following facts?  

Trump Jr got an email that said in part:  

"This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump,"

And Trump Jr replied:

"If it's what you say I love it,"

And then he forwarded the email to Kushner and Manafort and the three of them later  attended the meeting in Trump Tower with a Russian woman lawyer who they had been told had information on Hillary Clinton.   

This isn't something I'm making up.   This is Trump Jr's account of what happened.   Where's the 7 that you say I am adding?

Who did Trump Jr get the email message from?

Where was the Russian government ever involved?

Look closely how CNN "reports" this.

Quote:The younger Trump is a key player in the controversy over Russia's meddling in the 2016 election. According to emails released by Trump Jr., he met on June 9, 2016 with Natalia Veselnitskaya, a lawyer who was described to him as an emissary of the Russian government with information that was part of the country's effort to help elect his father.

Regarding the first part in bold, this really has nothing to do with "collusion", the hacking of the DNC or any Russian government "meddling" in the election.

Answer my first question above regarding the second part in bold.  Since a publicist (former tabloid "journalist") says in an email that the person is an "emissary of the Russian government" does it make it true?

Look at the New York Times headline story today where they clearly published false facts.  Here is the second paragraph from the article.

Quote:As Air Force One jetted back from Europe on Saturday, a small cadre of Mr. Trump’s advisers huddled in a cabin helping to craft a statement for the president’s eldest son, Donald Trump Jr., to give to The New York Times explaining why he met last summer with a lawyer connected to the Russian government. Participants on the plane and back in the United States debated how transparent to be in the statement, according to people familiar with the discussions.

Note how they attribute this to "people familiar with the discussions".

Fake News

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