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What happened to the Trump/Russia talk?

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(07-12-2017, 05:58 PM)The Real Marty Wrote:
(07-12-2017, 05:02 PM)MalabarJag Wrote: Yes, I really believe the bolded text. anyone using logic would.

There have been a lot of dealings between the Russian government and the Clintons. Hillary gave Russia a sweetheart deal with the uranium ore while the Russians paid Bill a hugely inflated 'speaking' fee. Russia may or may not have solid evidence of quid pro quo, but I wouldn't discount the possibility that Hillary could have been blackmailed.

Putin lost big when the US pulled out of the Paris accords. Trump is facilitating an expansion of US natural gas production which devalues Russian natural gas, and has promised Poland and other Eastern European counties that the US will sell them liquefied natural gas, removing a major weapon in Russia's dealing there. Trump is also installing missile defense in Poland against Putin's wishes. Hillary would have done neither.

Do you really believe Putin would prefer to have Trump in charge instead of Hillary continuing the Obama era cowtowing to foreign governments?

And I'm not the one spreading false rumors and spinning false narratives in an effort to deligitimize the election. That would be the New York Times.


The "seven" is the claim of involvement by Russian government itself. It was not involved in this meeting, and there's no evidence that the Russian government "supported" Trump's election. That was only a claim by a tabloid journalist.

No, actually, the CIA, the NSA, and the FBI have all said the Russians interfered in our election, by hacking the DNC emails and sending them to Wikileaks.  

It's well-known that Putin supported Trump and for good reason, since Trump talked about things like NATO being obsolete, and pushed for the Republican platform to drop language supporting arming Ukraine in its resistance to Russia.   Trump constantly defended Russia and Putin in interviews, too.   They had a mutual admiration thing going.

That's not evidence Russia supported Trump's election. It was common knowledge that Trump had no chance of winning. They (or whoever if intelligence is wrong again) also tried to hack the RNC computers. Logically, if Russia did it their goal was to spread dissent.

And since the DNC never turned their computer over to ANY of those agencies, how could they make a definitive statement as to who hacked the DNC server. Assange says it wasn't Russia, and he should know. What was said by the intel agencies was that Russia tried to interfere in the election, and that falls on an attempt to hack the voting machines.

Trump is right about NATO, it is a drain on the US economy to the benefit of the EU, who (with a few exceptions) fail to live up to their paltry end of the treaty. I'm not sure how that benefits Putin; Russia couldn't successfully invade any NATO countries even if the US withdrew, and the US would come to their aid if it happened, even if NATO were dissolved.

And you never did tell me where I can find the US government list of which countries are "hostile."



                                                                          

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RE: What happened to the Trump/Russia talk? - by MalabarJag - 07-12-2017, 08:19 PM



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