(07-14-2017, 06:16 AM)The Real Marty Wrote:

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Lol. And you wonder why people think the leftmsmdemocrats are unhinged loonies.

Here's an opinion piece by Charles Krauthammer, noted conservative and Fox News contributor:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/...01e9cdc74a

With all due respect to Mr Krauthammer I just see how this is collusion. Correct me if I am wrong but from what I have seen a tabloid journalist falsely offered up to Jr a lawyer tied to the Russian government with dirt on Hillary. The lawyer had no ties to the Russian Government nor did she have dirt on Hillary. Where is any collusion between the Trump campaign and Putin to be seen here?

Did Trump Jr. and by extension Trump seek to gain damaging info on a political opponent? Obviously yes. Collusion here? No!

While we are at it we do have confirmed collusion in the 2016 election. The DNC colluded with Hillary Clinton to deny Bernie Sanders the democratic nomination. Where is the investigative reporting in this collusion? The irony here is had Sanders won the democratic nomination HE would most likely be president right now.

You Never Trumpers need to refocus your ire IMO.


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(07-14-2017, 05:36 PM)rollerjag Wrote:

(07-14-2017, 02:20 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: Here are the facts as they stand right now.

1. A British publicist who is a former tabloid writer tells Trump Jr in an email that a lawyer "connected to the Russian Government" (which was false by the way) wants to meet with him to pass on damaging information regarding Hillary Clinton.  Trump Jr agrees to meet with her and forwards an invite to some other then-campaign staffers.
   
   
   
2. It was revealed as "breaking news" that at least one other person was present at the meeting.  He is being described as having ties to "Russian intelligence", even though that's not really the case.  He served in the Russian military in a unit that was part of counterintelligence but was never formally trained as a spy.  He has since obtained dual US/Russian citizenship and is a lobbyist.
   
   
   
3. Both the Russian lawyer as well as the "other person" at the meeting are both active lobbyists regarding the Magnitsky sanctions.
   
   
4. It's been said in several interviews that the focus of the meeting was regarding the Magnitsky sanctions.
   
   
   
5. Some of the news networks are also breathlessly reporting that there might have been other people in the room.  Just something to keep in mind.  The Russian lawyer does not speak English which would suggest at least a translator was present.
   

So given the FACTS about this non-story there were no laws broken, no collusion with the Russian government, nothing... nada.  It appears that Trump Jr and company were duped into a meeting to hear from lobbyists.

This story from the AP gives a bit more detail regarding the issue.

The facts is Donnie, Jr. thought he was getting dirt on Hillary Clinton from an official Russian government source and jumped at the chance.

This fact shows Donnie, Jr. is ethically bankrupt.

Nobody who knows anything about how the Trumps have behaved since their forefathers immigrated should be surprised. To them it's all about winning and losing, ethics be damned.

New to using Tapatalk so pardon any shortcuts I missed.

You stated: "The fact is Donnie Jr. thought he was getting dirt on Hillary Clinton". Everything after that statement is wishful thinking and conjecture. Jr was looking and hoping for dirt on Clinton case closed. The source is irrelevant as well as the person seeking said dirt.

Name one politician in all of history that would not hear out the possibilities, I'll wait.

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