(08-02-2017, 09:07 PM)Predator Wrote:

(08-02-2017, 07:22 PM)DarloJAG84 Wrote: I'm not a very patriotic Brit for various personal reasons...

However, isn't this a little harsh? Please don't think I'm trying to pick an argument because I'm not. But are you saying that people who serve in the military should/should not be offended by the same things (on this subject if nothing else)? I don't think whether someone offended by this kind of thing or not is a reflection of someone's commitment to service. You clearly feel very strongly about it and I respect that 100% - but I don't think it's fair to think that everyone who serves in the military should be offended by this. I'm sure you'll disagree with that last statement and that's fine, I'm not here to pick fights.. It's just my opinion.

As you said though, he sucks and no thanks.

The people in the US military fight and die for that flag and what it stands for. You wouldn't understand because your flag represents a monarch. Our flag represent the people and the lives that were given to free us from the tyranny of said monarch. Our flag represents the inalienable rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Our flag represents an ideal that people are willing to die for in order to secure that ideal for posterity.

What Kapernick did was spit in the face of the very institution that gave him the freedom to express himself in such a disrespectful way without any institutional retaliation.

But freedom is a double edged sword. The freedom that allowed Kapernick to act in such an offensive way is the same freedom that allows the free public to express their contempt for him.

Freedom of speech will allow you to make a rear end of yourself, but it won't protect you from the court of public opinion when you do so because that would be violating others freedom of expression.

For what it's worth, I totally understand. Just because I'm not patriotic, it doesn't mean I don't understand people who are.

My point was that regardless of how patriotic people are or what we believe in, mindsets are going to be different with regards what causes offence. It's what makes everyone different/interesting.

The only thing that immediately offends me is that Chad Henne has been put down as the #2 QB on the roster.

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