(08-14-2017, 10:29 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote:

(08-14-2017, 09:35 PM)jaglou53 Wrote: On the surface, this makes sense. However, when looking over the quarterbacks drafted since 1999, there have been many more busts than hits. The Jaguars have 3 of these: Leftwich, Bortles and Gabbert. The names Couch, Akili Smith, David Carr, Joey Harrington, Patrick Ramsay, Kyle Boller, Rex Grossman, J.P. Losman, Vince Young, Matt Leinhart, Brady Quinn, Jamarcus Russell, Jake Locker, Christian Ponder, R.G. 3, Brandon Weeden, E.J. Manuel, Johnny Manziel, Josh Freeman and Tim Tebow still give the general managers who drafted them nightmares as well as the hopeful fans who thought they had just drafted the guy who'd take them to the Super Bowl.

How many great quarterbacks have been drafted since then and taken their team to the Super Bowl? Aaron Rodgers, Ben Roethlisberger, Eli Manning, Cam Newton and Matt Ryan have taken their teams to the promised land, but are Newton, Manning and Ryan great? That is questionable.

Trent Dilfer, Brad Johnson and Joe Flacco were not great (although Flacco was very solid) when their teams won Super Bowls. 

Finally, let's look at Drew Brees, Kurt Warner, Steve Young, and Rich Gannon. All were backups or struggling until they got traded and lead their new team to the Super Bowl. Our own Mark Brunell was also a backup in Green Bay and eventually took the Jaguars to 2 AFC Championship games.

Blake Bortles has more career pick 6's (11) than wins (10). He has more pick 6's after 3 seasons than any q.b. in the history of the NFL. Obviously, the coaching staff and administration has very little confidence in him as evidenced by their off-season acquisitions. Take as much pressure off Bortles by running the ball and playing great defense; this will be their strategy. Does anybody have any doubt that Blake will lose at least 1 or 2 games this season due to terrible judgement or lack of accuracy? The term "game manager" may not be sexy, but if the team has a great defense and solid running game that is all they need until they are fortunate enough to find the next Brady, Manning, Brees or Roethlisberger. It wasn't that long ago that David Garrard, an average q.b. for sure, lead the Jags to the playoffs including 2 wins against the Steelers on consecutive weeks before running into Tom Brady.

It's time for this team to cut their losses. If they feel Henne would not be an improvement, trade for someone who won't continue to lose games for this team.

Can you honestly say you see a backup QB on another team that can be mentioned in the same sentence with Drew Brees, Kurt Warner or Steve Young? I certainly don't see it. Nothing even close to it. I do see several QB's in the next draft that I believe have the potential to be stars though. I haven't been able to say that for several years, but I really like the way this class is shaping up so far. I'd rather see how this college season plays out and gamble on getting a QB in the draft. I was not a fan of any of the QB's the Jags drafted in years past, but hopefully we have learned from our mistakes and we'll get the right guy now.

I can't say that; if I had that ability I'd be coveted by 32 owners to be their next general manager. However, how many people saw that in Warner until he got his chance with the injury of Trent Green. As far as Steve Young, many considered him a one-dimensional quarterback who would never succeed in the NFL. 

My main point, however, is that until the Jaguars are able to find their long-term quarterback of the future, they would be better served by finding a suitable game-manager who will limit turnovers such as Garrard did when the Jaguars last made the playoffs. I threw out the name of Brett Hundley since he has appeared to improve since entering the league and some believe he has a lot of upside. Of equal importance is that he would not command that high a price if traded. I do believe there are other backups now who would be significantly better than Bortles including McCarron, Kaepernick,and both McCown's--- to name just a few. None of those guys will ever be selected for Canton, but they would give the Jaguars a better chance to win now.

Finally, I am not very optimistic that the team's franchise quarterback of the future will be found in the next draft. Despite having Bortles as quarterback, the schedule is not strong and the defense is very good. That means they should win at least 6 games which likely means they cannot draft one of the top 3 quarterbacks. Frankly, I only see one "can't miss" guy and that is Darnold- who will be long gone when the Jaguars are on the clock. Although Rudolph, Rosen, Allen and Jackson all have positives, none are guarantees to succeed in the NFL. The Jaguars will need to still take their chances next year with either a 1st round or free agent q.b. if Bortles flames out. Unfortunately, history shows that franchise quarterbacks are extremely hard to find.

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(08-15-2017, 02:14 AM)Dakota Wrote:

(08-13-2017, 07:25 PM)jaglou53 Wrote: Let's face it- Blake Bortles does not have what it takes to be a starting NFL quarterback. Henne looked good in the 1st pre-season game, but his inconsistency is well-documented. We do not know enough about Brandon Allen to even consider him a reasonable option at this point.

Back in 1995, Tom Coughlin acquired Mark Brunell from the Packers for a mid-round draft pick. It was probably the best move he ever made along with trading Rob Johnson for a 1st rounder who turned out to be Fred Taylor. I suggest that he calls Green Bay again to see if they would take a 3rd or 4th round pick for Brett Hundley. There are similarities between Brunell and Hundley. Both had very good careers in the Pac 10 and were stuck on teams lead by future Hall of Fame quarterbacks. The odds of Brunell becoming a pro-bowler who would take the Jaguars to the AFC Championship twice were not very good at the time of the trade. But it did happen and there isn't a close second as far as best quarterbacks in Jaguars history.

Brett Hundley is the best option right now. It would not cost the Jaguars a lot and they would have a year to see if he has what it takes to be their quarterback of the future. If not, next year's draft has several excellent prospects. Forget about McCarron (the price is too high ) or Kaepernick (for the obvious reasons).

Make the call, Tom, and let's see if deja vu can happen again!

Let me get this straight. You want the Jags to sign an UDFAQB that has been unsigned for28 months? Just for argument's sake, let's say every NFL team only keeps 2 QBs for the season. That's 64 players. And the likes of Jay frigging Cutler are being yanked out of transportation.

There is no lightning in that bottle. Are you sure you didn't get struck by said lightning?

Not sure who you are talking about. Hundley was drafted by the Packers and has never been a free agent. Maybe it was you who were struck by that lightning.

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