(08-17-2017, 08:32 AM)Rico Wrote:

(08-17-2017, 08:30 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: Dead horse topic.

Bortles actually had good production in 2015 after you subtract his garbage time stats.

2016 was a different story. The article lumps the two seasons together so the claim will hold water. Weak.

News flash folks: Bortles has issues - but he's also been playing for a crap team with a crappier coach until now. Who gives a damn what he did then?? It's what he does moving forward with a better roster and better coaching that matters. I couldnt care less about some convoluted garbage time stat line from last season.

Would you please stop making sense.  There is no call for that on this board.

Yes, NYC4jags does make sense re: the past/dead stats argument, I do agree.  I'm ready to give it a shot (again), and besides, what choice do we have since they inexplicably didn't prepare a "plan B"? 

But here is my *opinion* that still holds for 3+ years now and increasingly so: my eyes see a QB that is a big, tough, athletic "gamer", and a likable guy for what that's worth --- but isn't gifted with an NFL caliber pure passing ability and perhaps more alarmingly hasn't demonstrated to be able to learn to read NFL defenses, and there are ? on his leadership qualities.  The last 2 may be somewhat coachable, and I think he's been hampered by a lack of help in that area, but I'd say it's at least 50% on him too.  The first part (pure passing ability) is unlikely to change much.  As I've said a hundred times before, I HOPE I'M WRONG, but how long can I keep saying that???

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