(10-10-2017, 01:52 PM)Etdavis2006 Wrote: https://www.google.com/amp/s/nyg.247spor...682251/Amp

For purposes of just discussion how would you guys feel about this move? 

They are discussing this topic on 1010xl. 

What do you think would take to make this move? How would you feel about this move. 

Personally I would say no but it is an intriguing idea once I actually thought about it objectively.

I would not.

There is an understandable urgency to ensure this team's ability to succeed at the highest level is achieved.    There is a limit to how much this team can achieve with little to no production at the team's most important position.  The status quo keeps that limit in place.  On the other hand, acquiring a QB like Manning would presumably remove that limit, or at least raise the ceiling of possibilities this team can achieve.

However, there are also questions regarding how high and for how long that ceiling would be raised by acquiring someone like Manning.

First there is the obvious concern about how high he could lift that ceiling.  Yes, Eli Manning has the resume that would make him an attractive candidate for QB here.  However, with those accomplishments-which includes two Super Bowl championships-there comes 14 years of experience.  The immutable laws of football physics apply to QBs, too, including Manning.  How much has those laws (time and years of punishment) impacted him?  How much of the Giants' failures in this 0-5 start are attributable to him and diminishing skills?  If he is unable to overcome the talent shortcomings on the Giants, how would he do that with the Jaguars?  Furthermore, he would be coming to the Jaguars in mid-season in this scenario.  While RBs like Herschel Walker and Eric Dickerson could be able to make a mid season move quite seamlessly, to perform at a high level, a QB would have to have a command of the entire offense.  His intelligence is not questioned, but there is legitimate concern about how much offense could he pick up in mid-season and be effective as the Jaguars' starter?

All of this presumes he'd want to play for the Jaguars in the first place.  While the talent in Jacksonville is finally at a level that should enable the team to contend, we are talking about the same guy who forced a draft day trade because he did not want to play for the Chargers.  Who is to say he wouldn't feel similar apprehension about playing for the Jaguars?  Who is to say he wouldn't be turned off by the idea of playing in Jacksonville after his entire career living in New York, or being alienated by the lack of loyalty after all of those years as a Giant?  Perhaps under those circumstances, Manning might retire rather than be traded here.

Furthermore, even overcoming these considerations for this year, what of the longer term?  Even if he completed this season with the Jaguars, how much longer could he be expected to play, and at what level?  He would have to be brought here with his salary.  What would that do to the Jaguars' ability to retain key free agents in 2018 (T. Smith, M. Lee, A. Robinson) and beyond?

The price for acquiring a player like Manning is also a concern.  A head coach that has been losing with him and is clearly on the hot seat might be reluctant, to say the least, to trade away an experienced, accomplished QB like Manning.  He has won at a higher level than any Giants QB dating back at least to Y.A. Tittle.  He is about as close to a Giants' icon at the position than anyone.  Aside from dealing away the player that seemingly represents his best chance to turn things around to the pint he can save his own job, he wouldn't want to be known as the guy who traded away Manning (even though the Giants have a GM).  Under those circumstances, the Giants would inflate the cost for acquiring him.

I just don't think trading for him would have the short term benefits and longer term value those who advocate dealing for him envision.

This is not to say the team could not benefit from an upgrade at QB.  I just think the position would best be upgraded with a younger player.

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