(10-19-2017, 11:32 AM)Adam2012 Wrote:

(10-19-2017, 12:29 AM)B2hibry Wrote: This soldiers death was not what would be considered a high profile or an extraordinary death. This was an Army Sgt. from Miami with a population just over 2.5 million. The Congresswoman was there for other reasons. Not her place to interject regardless of who the POTUS is, especially not hearing the entirety of the conversation. What words of condolences are appropriate? Any besides the ones from POTUS’s mouth right? The timing and nature of this situation reeks!

You seem to forget, not surprisingly, that Donald brought this whole issue up - when he was feeling sorry for himself for having to do his duty, and when he was slandering Obama and Bush. Donald always has to make it about Donald. And if a dead serviceman and his widow get caught in the crossfire then so be it. As long as they are talking about Donald and not healthcare or a few other things.

I doubt Donald was insensitive on purpose. He's just not an empathetic guy (except when it's about him). I imagine he was trying to console the widow by saying something about how the mission was dangerous, he knew what he was getting into, but he faced the danger. Or some such. He's just not very articulate when he goes off script or teleprompter. He probably tried to wing it and it come out as being clumsy.

The point is - Donald has another mess of his own making. And of the saddest issue imaginable.

Do you forget how Obama spoke negatively about Trump to the media and late-night television? Trump is a hothead and quick to react, but let's not pretend like he's the only President to behave like this. 

So, now it's Trump's behavior that put the widow in the crossfire? C'mon... Surely it isn't the untrustworthy congresswoman and the media that wants to blow everything out of proportion.

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(10-19-2017, 02:47 PM)UCF Knight Wrote:

(10-19-2017, 02:04 PM)Kane Wrote: Players kneeling are people shoving their nonsense down our throat when all we want is football.
What Trump allegedly said here is not the same.

So one could be upset with one and not the other.

I don't get mad when people are accused of something to which there is no proof. And even still I tend to not care what people say when I deem it unintelligent.
Now... if someone comes knocking on my door, or shoving their face into my living room thru a TV, with some nonsensical political statement I didn't ask for... I might get a lil upset.

One is an invasion of my personal space with political "protests". (btw shouldn't they protest by, idk... refusing to play football until change is enacted? Maybe march in the streets together to bring about change... all these "look at me" protests do is create anarchy and destroy Sunday football)
The other is stupid talk in a political environment that is nothing but slander back and forth. Brought about by a bunch of politicians (Trump included) from both sides of the aisle that spend all day and night saying and doing things to further divide America.

Can't wait for the next POTUS to take office so it can be more of the same... It ain't gettin no better folks.

This is exactly the same.  Don't talk about Patriotism when it fits your argument about players taking a knee, and then when the president says something absolutely disgusting to a soldier that passed aways family say it was taken out of context or that this is all about politics.  If it was someone in your family you wouldn't see it that way.  People are absolute hypocrites when it comes to politics and each side wants to act like they are better than the other.

You have no idea what was said, and the only thing that we know is that Congresswoman Wilson can't keep her story straight.

But don't let the inconsistencies stop you from jumping to conclusions.

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