(10-19-2017, 11:43 PM)JagNGeorgia Wrote:

(10-19-2017, 10:24 PM)MalabarJag Wrote: While I have your attention, I'd like to ask a question. 

There have been comments about 70% of prisoners being in jail for marijuana possession. I find these numbers ridiculous, but I could be wrong. As a LEO, how often does your department arrest someone for marijuana possession? Do you know of anyone in your jurisdiction who ended up in jail just for marijuana possession? If so, were there any for small amounts?

I've never worked for the jail, but personal statistics would show about 5% of my arrest were for drugs. I personally don't care about marijuana and wouldn't take someone unless they had more than an ounce. As for the jail in my county, I'd guess 70-80% is for domestic and probation issues. All of this is a guess, however, and I can't say definitively.

As for prison, the Department of Justice says 99.5% of drug offenders in prison are there for trafficking. Trafficking requires (if it was marijuana) would have to exceed 10 pounds. Only 12.5% of that 99.5% number is marijuana-related. 1,525,900 were under the care of correctional facilities, and 94,678 were drug offenders. That 6% so I'd say that 70% number is grossly inaccurate unless I'm misunderstanding something.

All of that is from 2015 so it could vary some.

People are arrested for marijuana. It largely depends on the officer, so some people will take you for a gram while others will just throw it out the window. It does happen, but just being in jail for marijuana isn't the same as prison. I don't know of anyone who has gone to prison for marijuana possession. I've arrested far more people for driving without a valid license than I have marijuana.

(10-19-2017, 10:58 PM)Jamies_fried_chicken Wrote: No, it is irrelevant to you because you cant grasp the simple notion that there are people who have complex beliefs that don't fit the typical political identity.  There have been protest for equality on the national stage since the days of Tommy Smith,  Vince Matthews to Mahmoud Abdul-Rahif in the 90's. You know what happened to those people after they silently protested, they were suspended or banned from their respective sports. 

You're deflecting. It's irrelevant because you use racism as the source of disagreement for too many things. It doesn't matter if you say not all white conservatives are racist when your behavior supports a different line-of-thought. 

Maybe you don't understand, but the point of protest is to raise awareness in a peaceful manner, everybody is NOT going to agree with the method. Im sure there were people during the Civil rights era who didnt like the way MLK, etc led his protests and boycotts and complained about the "respect" factor, don't you agree?

I'm fully aware of their point and why they chose to do it during the anthem. Despite Kaepernick saying he would not stand for "the flag", you'd have use believe it isn't a protest against the flag or the anthem. Kaepernick did it because he doesn't like this country, the police, the flag, or the anthem. Now everyone is trying to change the narrative and make it seem exclusive to police injustice when that was only a part of the reason why he did it.

Again, systematic injustice is root cause the players are trying to bring attention to. The percentage of minorities wrongly convicted of murder is 47%. Plus African Amercians have to wait twice as long to wait for their convictions to be overturned, I read a story ever day of a black person being freed after being wrongly convicted for alot of years. if you dont believe me, read the link below. 

No, 47% of those that were wrongly convicted for murder were black. That may be what you're trying to say but it doesn't appear that way. No one says the system is perfect. 2,000 wrongful convictions (1,000 black) over 30 years is almost statistically insignificantly. It's too many, yes, but it doesn't prove some systematic bias against black people. 34% were white... they're not too far behind. Besides, this study doesn't take into account the type of murder convictions. Hell, for all we know, it could be even for all races and we wouldn't know because if we knew how many were actually wrongfully convicted then they wouldn't be in there.

It could mean black people receive more attention on their cases and thus get their convictions overturned.

Your numbers don't help your argument. Hispanics have the lowest amount of time waiting for the wrongful conviction to be overturned. I thought the system was prejudiced against black and brown people? These articles are poorly worded. "Wrongdoing"? They don't even explain what "wrongdoing" includes. None of this proves your argument, but it seems your argument has shifted from police brutality to the court system..?

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/07/us/wr...ation.html

http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/...9884.shtml

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/opinion-l...story.html

Simple and rational, but JFC will either ignore, deflect,  or say something asinine because everyone is racist towards him. 

I've seen people burn flags and disrespect it long before the players were kneeling for the anthem that were white and I can assure you the videos on Youtube show a strong reaction towards the white people as well.  It's an easy google search JFC, go take a look.

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