(10-20-2017, 12:07 PM)JagNGeorgia Wrote:

(10-20-2017, 11:38 AM)rollerjag Wrote: Without commenting on their accuracy, I believe the protesters agree the numbers are disproportional, they disagree with the conclusions you reach from them, and the reasons they are disproportional.

Someone can disagree with it, but it doesn't mean they have a rational point.

It doesn't mean they don't, either.

The more violent encounters you have with police, the more likely you are to get shot. I'm not even sure their argument would allow them to disagree with my argument. In one poll, 73% of black Americans said police violence is a serious problem. I don't know how many times I pulled someone over for a traffic offense and they literally freak out thinking they're going to die. All the while, I've given them no reason to believe that to be a possibility. My point here is that if black Americans think violence is a serious issue with police, if they increase the number of encounters (violent encounters), then the natural response is to believe that they're increasing the chances of getting killed. How then can they disagree with my conclusion?

Quote:U.S. police officers have shot and killed the exact same number of unarmed white people as they have unarmed black people: 50 each. But because the white population is approximately five times larger than the black population, that means unarmed black Americans were five times as likely as unarmed white Americans to be shot and killed by a police officer.

Police have shot and killed a young black man (ages 18 to 29) — such as Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo. —175 times since January 2015; 24 of them were unarmed. Over that same period, police have shot and killed 172 young white men, 18 of whom were unarmed. Once again, while in raw numbers there were similar totals of white and black victims, blacks were killed at rates disproportionate to their percentage of the U.S. population. Of all of the unarmed people shot and killed by police in 2015, 40 percent of them were black men, even though black men make up just 6 percent of the nation’s population.

And, when considering shootings confined within a single race, a black person shot and killed by police is more likely to have been unarmed than a white person. About 13 percent of all black people who have been fatally shot by police since January 2015 were unarmed, compared with 7 percent of all white people.

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