(10-24-2017, 09:22 PM)jagibelieve Wrote:

(10-24-2017, 07:16 PM)Upper Wrote: I still haven't been that impressed. He isn't making very many impactful plays while the game still matters. He beats cellar dweller RTs (Giacomo dead last in pressures), a lot of TE and RB, and then he piles on at the end of blowouts.

Those two plays at the very end of the Jets game are really the only two plays that have opened my eyes as impact plays that actually might/should have mattered to the outcome. Other than that it looks like a guy who takes advantage of being the forgotten 4th best pass rusher on a dline that defenses just occasionally forget to account for.

You must be one of the Alfie minions.  There are always people like you that say "yeah but" for whatever reason.  The guy has been producing and is listed as #12 in the league in sacks.  It may not impress you (as if that really matters) but he's been pretty solid.  I'll take that any day when you have two of his teammates above him on the list.

Nah, sack totals just don't mean that much to me. There is far too much noise in numbers that are so small one or two fluke plays in either direction can significantly skew the truth. I simply remember several games where we were collectively asking if Fowler was even playing in the game and then a silly play would happen where Flacco had a design roll right into him, or a RB or TE were designed to block him 1-1, etc. I am still not seeing him beat OTs (other than the aforementioned Giacomo who is the worst RT in the league) very often at all.

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