(11-01-2017, 10:01 AM)Billsfan1212 Wrote:

(10-31-2017, 08:18 PM)imtheblkranger Wrote: I was referring to Buffalo in general, not the Bills.

It's a dirty city. The local music and beer scene is solid though.

5 years ago, you would be spot on. Back when Buffalo and Cleveland were dying, Cleveland decided to develop the waterfront and Buffalos answer was to put in a subway. Cleveland did it right. Buffalos subway literally goes no where and as the shopping downtown died it simple became a shuttle for attending an event downtown. FINALLY when the Pegulas (who not only own the Bills but the Sabres too) came into town they threw a TON of $$ into developing the waterfront and area around the area. The results are simply stunning. You wouldnt believe its the same city and has done wonders for the city and surrounding areas. Its obviously not the same, but its starting to get a Key West Mallory Square type of vibe. Its why people jokingly call it Pegulaville.. they have quite literally saved the city of Buffalo

Yes, that area is pretty cool. I've been to the brewer's fest at outer harbor which is also cool. My hotel was near the area you're talking about. It was still largely under construction when I was there, but you could see it coming together. 

Coincidentally - the Jags owner is planning a similar development in Jax for an area of abandoned shipyards downtown near the stadium. 

http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/2017-...cksonville

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More from Telvin regarding the Dareus add:


"It's going to be a crazy rotation," Smith said, per the team. "I'm looking forward to adding another head to that monster."

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