(11-21-2017, 12:49 PM)Billsfan1212 Wrote:

(11-21-2017, 12:31 PM)HandsomeRob86 Wrote: Wow, this guy (Billsfan) would have been a straight Gene koolaid sipper if he was a jag fan. You had a team 3 games over 500 and you trade away the best DT for peanuts supposedly for 'culture' and then watch your run D plummet. Then you bench a decent QB (Taylor) for a rookie who is way out of his league and suffer a huge loss. And you are defending these moves? They are straight asinine. This is the opposite of what a winning team is supposed to do, you guys won't even get to a Rex Ryan 8-8 at this point.

The dysfunction probably goes deeper than the front office at this point. You have to think the owners are just trying to lose with some of the moves that have been made.

Man... you just dont get it. When things are as bad as they are for the Bills and they have seemingly tried EVERYTHING except admitting what you are doing isnt working with buying shortcuts ETC - its refreshing to see a tandum come in and be given the time to construct a roster the way they want. The hope is they knew what they were doing and were a big part of Carolinas success (they sure werent happy to loose either) and maybe given time they can catch lightning in a bottle and repeat the success achived in CAR. Again, what good is backing in the playoffs at 8-8 and losing in the 1st round? its counterproductive in the big picture. Theyve got 2 1st round picks, 2 2nd, a third (as the other turned into Benjiman) and a myriad of other picks, meanwhile sport one of the oldest rosters that lacks depth. Sure, theres a contingent who just want the playoff moneky off their back. Again, I wanna be GOOD. We've been 8-8, 9-7, 7-9. Been there, done that. Anything worth while is going to take a couple years and part of the process is 'fixing' the previous regimes mistakes. When you understand the goal is sustained success - not just a flash in the pan being slightly above avg for one year. Isnt part of the JAGs success due to a roster thats been infused with quality (generally high) young draft choices and then over times complimenting the roster with quality role players? You guys didnt just wake up one day with a good team. Rebuilding is actually a thing, and you guys actually want to argue with me about it? You had to deal with sub par seasons that enabled you to amass quality young talent. If you take that into account, your above statment seems a little hypocritical. If thats NOT how you guys achived your success, I'll listen as well because i understand being an armchair scount to a team that 1,037.6 miles away might need to be deferred to people in the thick of it. Meanwhile, you guys seem to think that not only is your football team good, but it entitles you to deicde in an all mighty fashion how other teams are run to... and I'm honestly not trying to be a jerk. I just dont understand how some of you feel so entitled to criticizing something you dont understand. If you feel the need to stick it to me, fine. Childish, but I get it. I guess I also get to take into account that in over 2,230 posts you somehow have achieved less rep points than other quality posters on here with MANY less posts, and maybe by engaging its my own fault....quality discussions can happen with out being so insulting - I PROMISE. Lets try. Respond without being condescending, overtly negative, holier than thou or simply just being a jerk.... But come on... lets be real here...

Lets be real here... How do you think these off the wall decisions are going to impact your organization moving forward? I'll tell you...

The good players you refused to pay would have been cheaper to keep than the money you'll have thrown out there to get mediocre players to even consider the Bills. These atrocious personnel decisions leave doubt and eliminate front office trust. Money is all that will be heard. Your organization will muddle around with a free agency swinging door while trying to find a QB to mask the glaring issues. This will lag on for a while as you attempt to hit on draft picks. But you already know this because the Bills have been doing it since 2005.

You should go back and review our history the last five years before sticking with your argument and being quite hypocritical in YOUR condescending tone. The Jags did some things right, but ours certainly isn't the model to follow. In any case, I know it may seem foreign to you, but fans of other teams can be fans of the NFL in general and be knowledgeable of other players and operations. Demanding your opinion is the only one that matters without even considering our perspective, especially what personnel hell we've been through, is quite frankly you being a jerk!

Hypocritical, Armchair, all mighty, entitled, childish, holier than thou, jerk... And I wondered why folks were starting to ignore you! Hard to have a quality discussion as you say, when your posts are overflowing with such descriptives and you demand that your opinions are the only one that matters because we are 1,037.6 miles away. If all else fails, attempt to use post counts and rep points as a quality control indicator! LOL

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