(11-21-2017, 02:46 PM)B2hibry Wrote:

(11-21-2017, 12:49 PM)Billsfan1212 Wrote: Man... you just dont get it. When things are as bad as they are for the Bills and they have seemingly tried EVERYTHING except admitting what you are doing isnt working with buying shortcuts ETC - its refreshing to see a tandum come in and be given the time to construct a roster the way they want. The hope is they knew what they were doing and were a big part of Carolinas success (they sure werent happy to loose either) and maybe given time they can catch lightning in a bottle and repeat the success achived in CAR. Again, what good is backing in the playoffs at 8-8 and losing in the 1st round? its counterproductive in the big picture. Theyve got 2 1st round picks, 2 2nd, a third (as the other turned into Benjiman) and a myriad of other picks, meanwhile sport one of the oldest rosters that lacks depth. Sure, theres a contingent who just want the playoff moneky off their back. Again, I wanna be GOOD. We've been 8-8, 9-7, 7-9. Been there, done that. Anything worth while is going to take a couple years and part of the process is 'fixing' the previous regimes mistakes. When you understand the goal is sustained success - not just a flash in the pan being slightly above avg for one year. Isnt part of the JAGs success due to a roster thats been infused with quality (generally high) young draft choices and then over times complimenting the roster with quality role players? You guys didnt just wake up one day with a good team. Rebuilding is actually a thing, and you guys actually want to argue with me about it? You had to deal with sub par seasons that enabled you to amass quality young talent. If you take that into account, your above statment seems a little hypocritical. If thats NOT how you guys achived your success, I'll listen as well because i understand being an armchair scount to a team that 1,037.6 miles away might need to be deferred to people in the thick of it. Meanwhile, you guys seem to think that not only is your football team good, but it entitles you to deicde in an all mighty fashion how other teams are run to... and I'm honestly not trying to be a jerk. I just dont understand how some of you feel so entitled to criticizing something you dont understand. If you feel the need to stick it to me, fine. Childish, but I get it. I guess I also get to take into account that in over 2,230 posts you somehow have achieved less rep points than other quality posters on here with MANY less posts, and maybe by engaging its my own fault....quality discussions can happen with out being so insulting - I PROMISE. Lets try. Respond without being condescending, overtly negative, holier than thou or simply just being a jerk.... But come on... lets be real here...

Lets be real here... How do you think these off the wall decisions are going to impact your organization moving forward? I'll tell you...

The good players you refused to pay would have been cheaper to keep than the money you'll have thrown out there to get mediocre players to even consider the Bills. These atrocious personnel decisions leave doubt and eliminate front office trust. Money is all that will be heard. Your organization will muddle around with a free agency swinging door while trying to find a QB to mask the glaring issues. This will lag on for a while as you attempt to hit on draft picks. But you already know this because the Bills have been doing it since 2005.

You should go back and review our history the last five years before sticking with your argument and being quite hypocritical in YOUR condescending tone. The Jags did some things right, but ours certainly isn't the model to follow. In any case, I know it may seem foreign to you, but fans of other teams can be fans of the NFL in general and be knowledgeable of other players and operations. Demanding your opinion is the only one that matters without even considering our perspective, especially what personnel hell we've been through, is quite frankly you being a jerk!

Hypocritical, Armchair, all mighty, entitled, childish, holier than thou, jerk... And I wondered why folks were starting to ignore you! Hard to have a quality discussion as you say, when your posts are overflowing with such descriptives and you demand that your opinions are the only one that matters because we are 1,037.6 miles away. If all else fails, attempt to use post counts and rep points as a quality control indicator! LOL

Again, glad you arent in charge..... 
Lets be real, I'm PRETTY SURE - infact I'm positive!!! That I said if thats not how this occured, tell me! You'd know!!! Right after contributing my speculation, the next thing I wrote was my take based on the limited amount of Jags slanted articles Ive read maybe not be what actually happend. 
The fact you simply illustrated my point of the ignorance is simply maddening!!! The Bolded statement proves my point better than I ever could!
I have the sense to defer after a Jags take and your bolded take is your response... If i could shake your hand I would. 
I'm the one telling YOU how YOUR team is? I'm starting to think you arent even reading my essays.  
Heres the score- some folks here contribute an incorrect take that isnt opinion and non debatable while making fun of the Bills.
With no sarcasm and totally good hearted, I set the record straight in a respectful manner offering an explanation and insight.
Rather than have an excellent conversation exchanging points and insight - people would rather be inconsiderate and insult which derails any potential conversation. Whats does that say about these people? They come to a message board to heckle and bicker at the expense of a potential excellent conversation. This isnt even about Taylor anymore bc everyone just wants to argue and puff out their chest when the reality is, like it or not, I'm prob the only one (mmmaaayybbbeeee someone who has him in fantasy) thats actually paid attention to him (and the Bills) over the last 3 years let alone watched each and every snap multiple times. And its not a pissing contest, but if im sick, i dont go to web md - i go to a DR because they know whats up.
In turn, im told im crazy,wrong, and my franchise is pathetic.
I make essentially the exact same statement but reverse to prove my point - and you come along and correct me... Which I knew would happen.
I made a statement on how the Jags came to be and am immediately corrected lol. I'd hope someone would tell me how it was just as I'd hope you'd at least hear me out with a Bills take. It's asinine in a sense
So now, this select few are experts on both the Jags and the Bills? And I'm supposed to take this seriously? .

Like I've said before, some great dudes/women on here. But of the 20 or so boards I visit when my team plays them this is far and away the most unwelcoming. 
I have a feeling it would have been in years past - but a half season of success seems to have gone to a few of your heads. Thats cool, enjoy it. I wish my team looked like yours do... but act like you've been there before.


Do you think I just magically showed up and started trying to troll you folks?
If the answer is yes - well - this is why things have gotten the way they have bc thats certianly not the case.
Do you not see the goading thats taken place simply because I'm a fan of another team? If not, your a bigger homer than the rest of them!
Bottom line is, I'm not going to sit here and listen to Jags fans tell me whats right and wrong with my football team like they are in tune with the situation when really they are off base and just simply egging me on. 
Having conversations with opposing teams is such a great thing because it is a great educator to how people think and whats going on around the league. 
I think is crazy over on the skins board there are people that actually dont like cousins. The rest of the league seems to, but unless you REALLY like football you arent going to watch every skins game to understand and see what their issues are.  Thats when the hometeam insight is helpful. 

I've been humble, I've admitted when I've been incorrect, I've been insightful, and I've been informative. When poked, I've poked back. I cant help you take offense to me sticking up for myself to another poster. If you've got something that adds to conversation with out being insulting - i invite you to contribute.
But dont call me out and then be a hypocrite less than 2 sentences later.

PS, isnt the entire point of the reputation for essentially 'liking' when someone offers a quality take? I'd say thats not a half bad way to measure what someone has to offer. I've hit quite a few rep buttons for good posts i found interesting or informative. Seems like thats kinda the point....

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