Quote:Does it take into account tipped passes that are the fault of the receiver? I've seen that quite a bit with Johnny.


You're talking about accomplishments not actual QB attributes. Bortles over and under throws guys, throws a lot of passes that don't make sense when he's pressured (not the same as wilting, just bad decision making) and sometimes when he's not pressured, stares down his first read too much, and doesn't fool safeties with his eyes, and his ball placement is nothing special. He has a nice body but a long way to go, more so than Johnny who just has a couple mechanic nitpicks leftover that I think he will mostly address in the next few months.

Manziel makes horrible decisions...he scrambles around and then chucks the ball in the air sometimes. Bortles is pretty good under pressure.


I think Bortles accuracy can be helped with some improvement in his mechanics too. I just don't think it's as big of a fix as you do.


I will admit he is not as advanced as Teddy in manipulating defenders with his eyes but he has improved. I don't think Manziel is any better than Bortles in that regard tho.

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