(01-31-2018, 05:01 PM)JNev Wrote:

(01-31-2018, 04:35 PM)Upper Wrote: Alex Smith and Eli Manning. Alex Smith and Eli Manning. Alex Smith and Eli Manning. We get it guys there were two outlier QBs who got a lot better after 4 years into the league. What about the other hundreds and hundreds of QBs? The adage is a QB is what he is after 50 starts is a saying for a reason. Blake might be an Alex Smith or an Eli Manning, but the odds are far more likely that he is what he is.

Drew Brees was pretty terrible his first 4 seasons (79:53 TD:INT). McNabb had a similarly slow start (87:49). Favre was 108:64. Flacco 80:46, Stafford, 109:63.

Blake Bortles: 90:64 in 61 starts.

It's not definitive or anything, but its not only Eli and Alex Smith

C'mon you know you can't compare TD:INT amongst eras. Even in McNabb and Favre's era. They were both far better compared their peers before their 4th seasons than Blake has been.

And you completely lose me with Brees. He had a good rookie year, a slightly down hurt 2nd year, and then right into an MVP caliber 3rd season.

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