(02-03-2018, 01:38 PM)TJBender Wrote:

(02-03-2018, 10:25 AM)MalabarJag Wrote: A lot of spin in that article. For example, claiming that the FISA application using the known phony "dossier" was OK because it was subsequently re-approved, which requires new evidence. We don't know that there was any new evidence, since the secret FISA judge could have allowed it without any new evidence. Further approval would never even have happened if not for the initial approval, which required the "dossier." It is an indictment of the whole FISA court process.

Victor Davis Hanson has a long article explaining the significance.

The full article

The key comment:

I can't disagree with you here, and I don't really want to. What is apparent, based more on the Democrats' and especially the FBI's push to keep this memo under wraps is that the FISA court system was abused.

Secret courts that exist outside of the Constitution being abused by the party in power? [BLEEP], where have we seen that before?

If nothing else comes of this, and I'm not convinced that much will given the immediate efforts (and, apparently, success) of the MSM to marginalize and discredit this memo entirely--shame on Nunes for not releasing the FISA documents to support it--I hope we get a broader, public, open review and dismantling of the FISA court system. This is America, dammit. We're supposed to be better than secret police and shadow courts. The intelligence state needs to be torn down, and if it takes two more years of Trump to make that happen, then so be it. Never before have we seen such clear evidence that the shadowy intelligence state is being abused by those in power for political gain, and if that doesn't scare a person, they don't deserve to call themselves an American.