(02-13-2018, 03:09 PM)TrivialPursuit Wrote: (02-13-2018, 02:51 PM)EricC85 Wrote: 100% on board with this. Let's help those that need it but this is a much better way to manage it instead of debit cards where they load up on junk and run out of quality food by mid month.
Also more cost effective if you can negotiate bulk discounts to package. Similiar to wic a much more efficient program with select amounts of specific foods available.
SNAP is horribly inefficient and easily manipulated. This eliminates the selling of benefits and manages wasted resources.
How is it inefficient? They get a card with money loaded on it once a month. That's efficiency.
Easily manipulated is the only problem and the only thing that needs to be fixed.
Deliveries of food boxes is insane and stupid and totally inefficient.
The benefits for starters come with very little restrictions the only restriction is on "cooked" food. The taxpayers are footing assistance at retail instead of wholesale secondly. And finally the ebt system makes it a painless and therefor easy handout to hook onto indefinitely.
If we're going to help people it has to be short term and with the goal of getting back on their feet. A blank check does none of that.
Why as a tax payer should I supplement someone with soda, chips, steak, lobster and whatever else those are not essentials!
Help the poor im all for it, I've been the poor, but we have to be smart about it. A box of essentials does that no one needs to starve but if you want steak you gotta pay for it like the rest of us.
(02-13-2018, 03:25 PM)Jags02 Wrote: The government shouldn't be deciding what they eat. Now I do like the idea of taking advantage of the government's purchasing power, but perhaps we can still leave the decision of what to buy to the food stamp holders. For instance, the government can offer certain staple foods to them at a considerable discount from what they'd pay in a store, and then let the consumer decide. In most cases the consumer would decide for the cheaper government food, and they would be allowed to order how much of what foods they want. The food stamp holder would be charged for the food when they go to collect their food stamps. In other words, if they bought $20 worth of government bacon, when they go to collect they'll simpliy get $20 less worth of food stamps.
Don't want the government telling people what to eat then don't have the government pay for it.
(02-13-2018, 07:37 PM)TJBender Wrote: I don't like it. Two reasons. One, it seems horribly impractical to figure out a box for every individual family when you consider special health needs, food allergies, dietary practices or requirements, etc. Two, I would not be ok with Uncle Donald telling me what I get to eat. And even then, it's a moot point. The grocery store and drugstore lobby would be devastated if they lost 90% of their SNAP dollars. They'd go to incredibly great lengths to make sure this plan never sees the light of day. Even if they're the suppliers for this program, there's a big difference between selling a million people a million heads of lettuce and retail and selling the government a million heads of lettuce at wholesale.
We shouldn't be subsidizing the grocery companies to begin with. That alone is enough for me to support this cut out the middle man making a profit on tax payers.