(02-11-2018, 03:34 PM)jaglou53 Wrote: Ryan O'Halloran indicated in today's Times-Union that a great scenerio for the Jaguars would be for a quarterback needy team who passed on that position with their first pick to trade back up into the first for the Jags #29 pick. They would give the Jags their 2nd and 3rd rounders in return. Since I expect the Browns, Giants, Jets, Cardinals and Broncos to already have addressed this need prior to pick 29, I think the most likely candidates would be Cincinatti, Baltimore and Buffalo. I'm going to say the Bengals want to move on from Dalton and don't trust McCarron enough to go with him. The Jags would then receive picks 46 (2nd round) and 77 (3rd). They might even be able to get another pick in 2019, but let's just go with the 2 picks for now. Personally, I'd be in favor of this since I doubt there'd be anyone that great left at #29. The Jags would also save money by not having to pay a 1st rounder and would be able to meet all their greatest need by the end of round 3. Here is how I'd do it:

Rd. 2 (46) -  Will Hernandez/Isaiah Wynn-  Greatest position of need. Either would be big upgrade.

Rd. 2 (61) -  Hayden Hurst/Mike Gesecki/Goedert- Any of these guys would be nice weapon for Bortles. No idea who is best, but at least 1 will be there.

Rd. 3 (77) -  M.J. Stewart- Perfect replacement for Colvin. 

Rd. 3 (93( - Mike Price- May not be there depending on combine and personal workouts. Opinions all over the place. Great size, smart and good enough arm. Is he athletic enough?
                                  If he isn't available, no big deal. Blake will start anyway. Jags would need to pick up a relatively inexpensive free agent instead. No need to waste a pick on 
                                  another q.b. if they doubt he'll ever be good (see Brandon Allen, Jonathan Quinn, etc.)


In this scenerio, I'd assume the Bengals like either Mason Rudolph or Lamar Jackson much more than the Jaguars do and feel they're worth moving up for.

The Bengals have a different formula to develop a quarterback than we do. Respecting their decision to go with Dalton instead of turning over the offense to A. J. McCarron has nothing to do with "trust". It has everything to do with grooming a quarterback to play in the NFL. Not every franchise throws raw meat to the wolves and expects something good to happen the way we do.

The better teams draft a quarterback prospect and bench him for several years. The Packers benched Bart Starr. Hall of Famer Jerry Kramer (I think the sound of that!) said they saw nothing in Bart Starr for his first three years, then suddenly he took off.

Same can be said of Aaron Rodgers. He sat behind Brett Favre for many years. Tom Coughlin traded for Mark Brunell, knowing he was getting a well-groomed quarterback prospect he felt would be ready to become his marquee passer. A couple of trips to the AFC Title game in the first two years of the Jaguars' existence proved Tom was keen on quarterback talent evaluating.

Remember Tom drafted David Garrard. His role was to back up Brunell and one day assume the starting quarterback job. Contrast David Garrard with Bryon Leftwich, Blaine Gabbert, or Blake Bortles. David was a-wash in the QB mix. He held the clipboard while all the experts figured out how to relieve the Jaguars of Brunell in favor of the college football hero quarterback du jour, Leftwich.

Yet this period of time served the same purpose as if Garrard was being left alone to study the quarterback role. When time was up, David never really stumbled into the starting job. Because of the time he spent learning the operation, he down-right snatched the starting QB job from Lord Byron.

Be grateful the Bengals did NOT desire to likewise throw A. J. McCarron to the wolves. We're fortunate that he has been developed by the Cincinnati coaches. It take a lot of discipline for a franchise to wait until its the right time rather than ruin a guy in four short year.

We will know THURSDAY (2-15) if A. J. McCarron is a unrestricted free agent or not. The decision will be made based upon his grievance filed against the Bengals, who he feels robbed him of one year of accrued service.

If the decision goes against McCarron I guess the Bengals can hold onto McCarron. In a situation like that, I think it will be best to part ways.

Hopefully, Trader Tom will bring Cincy to the light and they will trade McCarron to us for a second.

Then, if it is entirely plausible, the trade back scenario will yield a third round pick plus a second round pick to replace the one we use to gain A. J. McCarron.

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