(02-27-2018, 07:29 PM)rollerjag Wrote:

(02-26-2018, 10:27 PM)Sneakers Wrote: Your point is not at all difficult to understand, it's your theory that's flawed.  Yes, if guns are banned in Chicago, one will not have to travel far to a jurisdiction where laws are more permissive, but, that's not the reason gun laws don't work.......let's apply your theory to the drug problem.  Are you suggesting that drug laws in Chicago don't work because drug laws in Indiana are so permissive?  

Thanks for conceding the bad guys can find another weapon (and thus admitting that a ban on guns won't automatically stop the violence).  Multiple target, lethal capability couldn't be any more simple than with a car however.  Your also wrong about the distance argument, as Timothy McVeigh has proven.  Are you forgetting history or simply choosing to ignore it?

I never said gun bans won't automatically stop violence, so I'm not sure what I'm admitting. I didn't even say guns should be banned. Gun laws won't work if a short drive will get a buyer to a less restrictive area. That's common sense. What that has to do with drug use I have no idea. Very few apples resemble an orange.

Presenting ridiculous examples doesn't prove a theory to be flawed, your examples are flawed. You can't put a car or a U-Haul full of chemical explosives. I imagine if those type of attacks became as common as gun related deaths, there would be more stringent laws in place. Until then, can we stick to something relevant?

Your point is still flawed.  Even in Indiana there are gun laws and waiting periods.  Gangbangers in Chicago are not driving across state lines and legally purchasing weapons.  Yet they are getting them.  How many current laws are being broken for this to happen?  You know this, the left knows this yet you/them keep harping "I didn't even say guns should be banned."  Until we address all the checks and balances that are not being followed, and you keep asking for more restrictive laws then, yes you are asking that all guns be banned.  You just haven't gotten around to admitting it yet.

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