(03-20-2018, 11:47 AM)MalabarJag Wrote:

(03-20-2018, 11:27 AM)SignMeUpAtQB Wrote: How are you putting Mickens and a Rookie ahead of Hurns...
We dont have a Nr1 guy so we would have probably used different sets and rotations.

At least keep some depth with guys fighting for the starting Positions and get some competition going to get the most out of guys. Our receiving core is already terrible, our QB is terrible, I just dont think we are in a position to cut WRs and replace them with rookies and special teamers.
Again, I dont consider Hurns to be anything special, but to cut him now after FA and before camp just doesnt really make a lot of sense.

Mickens is our punt returner (and a good one) so he takes up one WR slot. He's not as good a receiver as Hurns, but did reasonably well when the Jags were forced to use him there. He would be kept instead of Hurns if it came to a decision between the two was just based on play, and his contract is a lot cheaper too.

"Rookie" may not be a real thing. OTOH, if the Jags draft a rookie (or find still another undrafted star) who looks reasonably good, he would be kept as a cheap developmental player over the #4 or #5 receiver.

I know Mickens does well on special teams, but idk if the few times he played WR justify putting him over Hurns from a pure WR standpoint.

(03-20-2018, 11:48 AM)knarnn Wrote:

(03-20-2018, 11:27 AM)SignMeUpAtQB Wrote: How are you putting Mickens and a Rookie ahead of Hurns...
We dont have a Nr1 guy so we would have probably used different sets and rotations.

At least keep some depth with guys fighting for the starting Positions and get some competition going to get the most out of guys. receiving core is already terrible, our QB is terrible, I just dont think we are in a position to cut WRs and replace them with rookies and special teamers.
Again, I dont consider Hurns to be anything special, but to cut him now after FA and before camp just doesnt really make a lot of sense.

You can order the depth chart all you like but it is what it is. At BEST Hurns is the 3rd best WR on the team. In reality is he's more likely the 4th or 5th WR on the team. That's hard justify paying 7 mil for, especially "just to keep depth".

I dont think the difference in quality between Lee, Moncreif and Hurns is that wide, and both of them got paid more than Hurns. Bottom line is we have a weak receiving core, any rookie in the draft will take the 4th or 5th receiver slot, rather than being a top receiver for us immediately.
I would take hurns over a rookie WR and use our pick for something else.

But again, the timing is just weird imo. Cutting him earlier might have left more space to retain colvin for example. Therefore I just dont get this move at this time.

(03-20-2018, 11:52 AM)Caldrac Wrote:

(03-20-2018, 11:35 AM)SignMeUpAtQB Wrote: Our Offense at this point is absolutely terrible for a team trying to make it to the AFCCG again. We have the worst QB in our division/below average NFL QB, our receiving core are 2 Sophmores and an average guy in Lee that has had difficulties holding on to the ball last year. ASJ is one DUI away from being out of the league and he hasnt been able to reach his potential anywhere else. I mean come on, I understand our defense is good but we also lost Colvin and Poz and the other Teams in our division greatly improved their Defense as well as already having better offensive players in key positions.
I think "Run the ball and good D" just wont cut it in the NFL if you want to make it to a Superbowl imo. There are too many IFs (Cole and Westbrook need to get better, ASJ needs to have an immediate impact, Lee has to stop dropping the ball etc...). Thats not the healthiest way to build a contender...

How do you figure that? We like to run the ball, control the clock and control the tempo. And they want to continue to rely on the defense to get it done. They're focusing more on improved blocking and adding more TE involvement to keep opponents on their toes defensively. I think people are too focused on WR and not looking at the overall picture and scheme of the offense right now. Especially when we still have the draft next month. 

ASJ seems to have gotten his [BLEEP] together. And that was in New York. If he can behave himself in that city with it's temptations and ease of access he should be fine here. If not, guess what? Next man up. We lost Colvin and replaced him with Hayden. Poz retired. And, once again. WE...STILL...HAVE...THE...[BLEEP]...DRAFT.... 

Lee needs to stop dropping the ball. I agree. He'll get better. But people act like Robinson wasn't playing volleyball in 2016 when the football was around him. And Hurns wasn't a sure handed catcher either. I think people just need to stop being so damned negative this off season. It's like Gus Bradley is still in the building or something...

[BLEEP]. R-E-L-A-X.

Idk how many holes you are trying to fix in the draft, and also I think you are overrating the impact a rookie will have on this team. You wann draft TE, WR, MLB, Nickel? How deep do you think this draft is? Anything after round 2-3 will be backups that will need some time before thinking of starting for a team with playoff ambitions.
And sorry for thinking that in the NFL, you will not win big if your QB cant perform in 2 minute offense in addition to having mediocre receivers. And again, relying on the defense is fine, but the other teams in our division are getting better and if they can stay healthy, our defense alone will just not be enough to make the playoffs. Its not about being negative, you have to be realistic and not just presume that things will go exactly like they went last year.
We need to get better, and so far, aside from Norwell and maybe ASJ if you give him the benefit of the doubt, we didnt get better at any other position. Arguably, we got worse by loosing Colvin and Robinson.
We can add depth to the team through the draft, but its not gonna elevate us to new levels.

Also, we now basically replaced Hurns with Moncreif and payed the latter more.

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