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Jaguars trade for QB Kessler

(This post was last modified: 03-29-2018, 03:40 PM by Southern Chicken.)

(03-29-2018, 02:14 PM)JUNGLE CAT 2017 Wrote:
(03-29-2018, 01:13 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: Then why does it almost never happen?  Especially with early picks?  

Because every GM in the league understands that need must meet value.  You take the best player available that's best suited to positively impact your team. 

The more talented and complete your roster is  -- the more the sliding scale leans toward BAP/Value.
The more depleted your roster is  - the more the sliding scale leans toward need.  

90% (if not all)  of the picks in the first three rounds of the NFL draft will be some combination of BAP and Need.  Not solely one or the other. 

And, no it is not "logical" to draft pure BAP.
 Not unless you just won the superbowl and have no holes to fill on your roster.  Rare exceptions occur but every GM addresses need with their draft picks whether they'll admit it or not.
Better franchises take the best available player. Two Super Bowls in Baltimore. A pair of Super Bowls for Tom Coughlin. 

https://www.news4jax.com/sports/sams-com...uars-draft

JACKSONVILLE, Fla. - To figure out what the Jaguars are going to do, the best barometer is what they’ve done in the past.  And you can go back to when Tom Coughlin was last making the decisions in Jacksonville.


“You want to take the best player available,” he said last week discussing how the Jaguars will make the decisions in 2017.  “At least in the first three rounds.  That’s how great organizations have been built.  Ideally ‘best player’ and ‘need’ meet when it’s your time.”

After winning three games last year, “need” is a relative term for the Jaguars since it appears they ‘need’ everything. With the fourth selection in the draft, Coughlin said, “We think we’ll get a good football player.”  And he’s right, but the draft is always fraught with potholes.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/09000d5d8...e-together

"You typically go for the best-available player, and in this situation, we've been able to match up a need with the best-available player," Coughlin told NFL Network on Saturday. "So it's worked out well for us in that capacity. It doesn't always work that way, especially as you well know, when you're waiting to pick 32nd."

What Tom is saying is BAP has flexibility so that you may have options.
Your article actually supports  what NYC4jags is posting.  The part you omitted was referring to positions that were in need by the Giants at the time they selected. 

"The Giants used that pick on Virginia Tech running back David Wilson, who will fill a hole created when Brandon Jacobs signed with the San Francisco 49ers in March.
"We just thought he was an outstanding producer who would complement our running backs very well," Coughlin said of the Giants' first-round pick.
Wilson rushed for 1,709 yards and nine touchdowns last season. He also caught 22 passes for one touchdown.
The Giants then drafted LSU wide receiver Rueben Randle in the second round, adding a player whom Coughlin and Giants director of college scouting Mark Ross called "NFL-ready."
Coughlin said the Giants' had Randle much higher on their own draft board and were surprised he still was available at No. 63.
Randle caught 53 passes for 917 yards and scored eight touchdowns last season for LSU.
"We think he's a big strong receiver who can go up and get the ball. He averaged almost 17 yards per catch in his collegiate career," Coughlin said. "Mario Manningham has moved on, and we have some outstanding young receivers here, but this will be very, very competitive."
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Jaguars trade for QB Kessler - by BklynJag - 03-28-2018, 02:38 PM
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