(04-12-2018, 02:56 PM)JackCity Wrote:

(04-12-2018, 02:34 PM)pirkster Wrote: If Vegas has it moving towards Allen, it's not the "media."

I'm basing this off the Browns having Allen in for a visit today.  I assumed you did, too, but maybe you weren't aware.  I would think any speculation today would be based on what they expect to come from today's visit.

Realistically, it's only the Browns who have the power to affect the "hype" of Allen by making folks believe they're going to take him.

It seems like you don't believe there's true interest in Allen at the top of the draft simply because you disagree with that sentiment.

Planet Theory is very real.  If there are guys with rare traits (guys who possess traits that few people on the planet have,) they're going to rise to the top for better or worse.  Similar skepticism was made with Mario Williams and more recently Jadaveon Clowney.  Those ignoring Planet Theory were cheerleading for Bush and Clowney's injuries caused a lot of folks to try to talk themselves out of that until just prior to the draft.  I remember seeing a mock having Bortles going first to the Texans.  Even last year some were uncertain whether the Browns would take Garrett or Trubisky.  In the end, the more rare specimen won out.

Allen's rare traits are solidifying where he's likely to be drafted - earlier than some folks expect him to be.  This happens every year.  The overhyped guys "fall" (Bridgewater, etc.) and the more rare specimens "rise."  When in reality, the GMs aren't the ones changing their minds - they rated these guys more highly/lowly than the fans and pundits all along, it's just as we get closer to the draft the "media" is getting a better feel for the pulse of what's actually going on.  If you look at mocks in past years, they get better and better as they get closer to draft because they're working with better information.

Ditto betting lines and events.

Josh Allen was always expected to visit with the Browns. That isn't new info. The Josh Allen #1 noise started out of the blue several days from several big media names at the same time. 

No you have that incorrect. I do believe there is interest in Josh Allen. Just not enough that they would seriously consider taking him #1. Darnold is a lock for that in my eyes.

And yes Allen is favourite in Vegas at the moment .Darnold had been close to a lock for the last few weeks. I'd like to see how that lines moves over the next 2 weeks, particularly in conjuncture with the media noise.