(06-13-2018, 10:16 PM)B2hibry Wrote: (06-13-2018, 09:16 PM)rollerjag Wrote: My point, from which you deflect, was lax or ineffective gun control laws in an adjoining state render local laws ineffective. The topic of this thread was that, despite strict gun control laws, gun violence was out of control in Chicago. I merely pointed out one reason why that may be true.
I'm pretty sure your arms flailed just a little when responding and, true to form, you invoked Obama. Always invoke Obama, it's in the playbook.
I love how people on here think that being an [BLEEP] reinforces a point. Usually means they are all out of any type of reasoning. Anyways, the one reason you provided is nonsensical and does not remotely establish causation.
So you used a story from 2014 to support your point that lax or ineffective gun controls laws are the issue? Why ignore current laws? Also, don't ignore the fact that the single largest supplier (40%) of illegal firearms in Chicago is actually Illinois. In general, the issue is that criminals don't care about laws and then you deflect from the fact that the adjoining states with these so-called "weak" laws aren't suffering the same fate.
I provided merely one bit of executive material, regardless of who was President. The Trump / Obama / Hillary / Fox News / CNN thing is getting old. If you read just that one fact sheet I provided, you may be able to educate yourself by going down the rabbit hole. You'll find tons of material that addresses your "issue" and many others. Feel free to review the gun control/law repository that is the ATF. A link was provided earlier.
I did not look at your link but what I do know is that you can not legally buy a handgun in a state that you are not a citizen of and take possession in that state, perhaps maybe from a private seller, but not from a gun shop...In some states you can buy shotguns and rifles as a non resident, but most of the laws say you have to have a federally licensed firearms dealer in the state you are purchasing the firearm in, send the firearm to another federally licensed firearm dealer in your state of residence where you can pick it up...You still have the same federal and state BG checks and waiting period before approval to buy the gun...So if you want to buy a firearm in Indiana and ship it to Chicago you it's probably going to be a pain in the [BLEEP], if it can even done...As I said above private purchases may be different, and gun shows always have major loop holes in them too, but with an Illinois ID, you aren't going to be buying a gun in Indiana and taking it back home to Chicago
