(07-28-2018, 07:39 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: I am a believer in the "Stand Your Ground" law, but in this case, I don't think it applies. Yes, the man got pushed, but I see no reason to believe his life was in danger. This was one of those cases where everyone was at fault and the situation should have NEVER gotten to the point of a shooting. If I were the D.A., I would definitely take this before a jury and see if a conviction of manslaughter is warranted. It's a shame that neither man could restrain themselves from making the situation worse. The one man should have never parked in a handicap spot without the proper documentation. The other guy should have called the cops instead of taking the law into his own hands and starting a fight and he definitely shouldn't have shoved the other guy. The shooter should have never fired a gun over getting pushed. There were complete over-reactions by both men. Everyone is so quick to resort to violence these days.

Your life doesn't need to be in danger. You only need to fear serious bodily harm (or death).

(07-28-2018, 08:13 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:

(07-28-2018, 06:42 PM)Byron LeftTown Wrote: The legal concept deals with disparity of force.  It doesn't matter what his age was.  He got attacked by someone younger, larger, stronger, and with 2 more possible attackers closing in.  The man on the ground can't read everyone's mind.  Was he about to get his face kicked in, or worse?  The only thing he knows at this point is that the other parties are in the wrong.  Parked illegally then assaulted him for speaking about it.

Yes, I know the "old" man is a prima donna toy cop wannabe.  He is especially stupid to be confrontational while carrying.  There are some people who should not be carrying, especially if it gives them any extra sense of bravado.  So it's pretty much a thumbs down for everyone involved.  

I think CCW classes should concentrate more on de-escalation techniques rather than teaching what constitutes a "good shoot" under the law.

Looking at the tape I think the shooter was in the wrong. And using a gun is the disparity of force, not getting pushed down for verbally assaulting a woman.

How can arguing with someone be considered verbally assaulting them? That seems to sensationalize what he did.

How is pushing someone and preparing to attack them not a disparity of force when it was done in response to words? FORCE > NO FORCE

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