(07-29-2018, 05:26 PM)lastonealive Wrote: Not sure how the 3rd person in can be the instigator although possibly overreacting.

Someone is dead because they parked in a disabled spot in an empty car park. This is not normal.

(07-29-2018, 10:27 PM)lastonealive Wrote: So if the guy who got shot had shot the guy for threatening his wife/kids would that also have been justified? Interesting

The 3rd person is the instigator because he was the first to use physical force in a situation not requiring it. Someone isn't dead because they parked incorrectly; someone is dead because he decided to attack someone over a verbal argument. It isn't accurate to misrepresent what happened here. You can attribute motive to the reason behind why he decided to confront the female, but you can't say someone is dead because of a parking space.

He wasn't pointing in her face until she willingly got out of the car by the way. He was several feet from the car when he was arguing.

Also, there literally no evidence that the guy was threatening his wife and kids. Arguing with someone isn't de facto threatening and thus justifying an attack. I probably wouldn't have made such a big deal about it, but he has every right to tell her she did something wrong, and I encourage more people to speak out when this stuff happens. Even the female hasn't made claims that the guy was threatening. 

(07-31-2018, 08:33 AM)B2hibry Wrote:

(07-30-2018, 11:46 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: It wasn't his damn business why they were parked in a handicapped space.

They shouldn't have parked there in the first place but the guy has no valid reason to confront the woman in the car.

While a large portion of society does typically favor the blind eye, non-confrontational approach, I prefer to address a wrong. As in this scenario, it does open the door to escalation, but it only takes one party with a cool head to avoid out of control escalation. Neither of theses parties processed that. 

Heck, I get annoyed when someone is parked 10 feet from cart return and still leaves it in a parking space or on the curb. And yes, I do call folks out on it with varied responses, most of which are head hanging shame with a side of scurry back to their vehicle.

I disagree...the guy has every right to voice concern and help police the society that he is a part of. Wrong is wrong, no matter who identifies it. It’s the escalation factors beyond verbal confrontation that are the issue.

I agree with you.

This blind eye, non-confrontational approach is why people get the police called on them for the most mundane reasons. If more people confronted others about wrongdoings, then people would be less likely to do as they did in the video. Confronting someone and arguing with them (without threats) doesn't justify being attacked no matter how petty the argument is about. 

I'd be surprised if many of those that criticize the shooter haven't also confronted someone of what they thought to be an injustice.

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