(09-18-2018, 10:03 AM)mikesez Wrote:

(09-18-2018, 09:03 AM)jj82284 Wrote: Unfortunately, you don't have that much credibility to loose, but any and all of it just went out the window when you compared passing along a leaked staffer's copy of a few confirmation questions to a multi million dollar counter intelligence operation against American citizens in violation of pretty much every rule we have on using American intelligence assets for the purpose of spreading disiniformation, providing a foundation for foreign (including Russian) propaganda used to deceive the FISC court and resulted in the frivolous prosecution of American citizens including a uniformed General and National Security Adviser Designee.  

Please, do your homework next time!

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter...minations/

You're clearly triggered by this Russia investigation stuff from two years ago.  You might want to find a brown paper bag and hold it over your nose and mouth while breathing slowly.
Slow down the thought process.  You have a multip-part allegation and you keep rushing to the end of it.
You're alleging that 
(1) politically sensitive secrets, but nothing illegal, were within the Trump campaign
(2) people in the DoJ or FBI or NSA used wiretaps and call logs to get these secrets
(3) there was no probable cause for (2)
(4) the information did not stay at DoJ but ended up in the hands of the other campaign.

(1) on its own is a naive belief, to me, because we know Trump's character and the company he keeps.  It was publicly known that Manafort was in debt to Ukrainian oligarchs before Trump named him campaign manager.  

(2) is of course true

(3) is again super-naive.  Michael Steele as a private citizen was able to construct probable cause against Trump and his circle.  Just imagine what someone with actual government tools could figure out.

(4) while we know that the Steele report was paid for by the Clintons, Steele did not have government tools or warrants at his disposal.  He supplied his info to the Clinton campaign but it also leaked to McCain.  It is more likely than not that he also told the FBI everything he figured out on his own before Clinton or McCain got his report.  No one has alleged otherwise, after all.

Everything that happened to the Trump campaign is exactly what you would want to happen to the other party if they ever ran a candidate with so many moral and ethical deficiencies.  And remember, Clinton was under investigation too. If she had won we would have similar problems with independent counsels, etc.

Lol.  

Steele established probable cause?  U actually typed that of ur own free will?  

In sworn testimony he said he himself couldn't vouch for the veracity of his accusations and his point of contact at the FBI said it would never hold up in court.  

Lol.  

Still waiting to see the quote where McConnell said he would never consider a Hillary nominee for the duration of her term

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