(10-21-2018, 02:24 AM)Inziladun Wrote:

(10-21-2018, 01:38 AM)TheSchmidt Wrote: They blew that chance by not upgrading the QB position. But this is about the Carlos Hyde trade and don't want it sidetracked.

Hyde doesn't move the needle at all for me. But I hope I'm wrong.

This organization just does the opposite of what you should do to get a back. Unless Hyde helps this team win a SB, this is giving a pick away.

What Denver has at RB this year is the ideal way to fill that position. 5th rounder in Freeman and UDFA Phillip Lindsay have been really impressive this year. Those guys are around every draft year, you just have to find them. But these guys want to spend money or use valuable draft picks on them.

I mean, I was kinda hoping we'd get Cousins or Smith in the offseason. I definitely think QB was a position of need in the offseason but the FO obviously liked their chances with Bortles. I don't think it's impossible to win a SB with Bortles... I find it hard to believe you think the percentage chance is 0% either.

That being said, the backs you mention aren't as good as Fournette... they just aren't. I won't argue that RBs probably shouldn't be taken in the early first round, but to say you don't see what the FO was going for in drafting Fournette is disingenuous. You don't get guys like Fournette in the 5th round. Yeah he's been hurt, which makes the pick iffy, especially in hind sight. But he's still a great back... 

We traded for Hyde because the next man up if Yeldon went down was a 33 year old RB who had trouble staying healthy being a workhorse back in his prime... let alone now. A 5th for Hyde is a good deal, we wanted to go back to a run first offense... and who can blame them after two stinkers by Bortles. It makes sense and puts us in a better position to win a superbowl this year. A 5th round pick next year doesn't do us jack squat to win a superbowl this year.

I personally think Fournette is overrated. He had a 90 and 75 yard run last year and still couldn't crack 4ypc for the season. He has all the physical tools to be awesome, but he misses or can't find the hole too much for my liking. He was hyped as the next Adrian Peterson type back, but where were the highlight runs that Barkley has already had this year?

I see what the FO was going for in drafting him, but it's just not that way to build a championship roster anymore. Consensus is Gurley is the most talented back in the league now, right? The Rams went 11-21 in his first two years in the league. But it wasn't until Goff turned into a franchise QB where they made the playoffs and are now legit SB contenders. Backs are more responsible for winning fantasy football games than actual games nowadays. Barkley's been better than advertised, yet the team is 1-5.

I get why they traded for Hyde, but I just don't see where he moves the needle. If ultra talented backs like Gurley and Barkley couldn't propel their team to the next level, what the heck is Hyde going to do? 5th round picks are most likely cut in a year or two, but you also could get lucky and grab a Telvin Smith, or hell a Royce Freeman. Now they don't have that opportunity. And I'm not against trading a pick to try to win a super bowl. Just not on a running back, and especially not one who is already 27 and will cost $5 million to keep next year.

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