(11-05-2018, 04:32 PM)Kane Wrote:

(11-05-2018, 03:03 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: I haven't seen all his games, but I watched him play Kansas and Iowa State. Sorry, I'm not impressed. A lot of his passes, are not on target. I see his receivers having to make adjustments to catch the ball or having to stop to make the receptions, rather than him hitting them in stride. It's little things like this that can determine success at the next level and I didn't see him going through his progressions. What I saw, was him consistently keying in on his first read even when he wasn't being pressured. I feel like a lot of you guys over inflate his value, simply because he went to Florida.

So you've watched a total of 2 Grier games with one possibly being his worst career game ever (Iowa State, the busters)?

C'mon man lol

He went to Florida a grand total of like 7 games. UF isn't why people are showing him love and with a comment like that it would seem you're baggin on him because he went to Florida (and then moved on to a Big12 team)

Perhaps he does lock onto his first read a lot (a lot of college QBs do this, many times it is because this is how college coaches build their offenses. Read 1, maybe read 2 or flat toss, tuck and run. But I've also watched games where when he had time he's gone to his 2nd and 3rd looks. No one should be saying these guys are coming in and being superstar all-pros right away. And I don't think anyone is. But to act like he's some scrub (based on 2 games) is silly....and that's being nice.


My list is currently
Grier or Lock in the first. (I'm just assuming Herbert is as good as everyone says he is and is going to the top team that needs a QB and assuming that isn't us lol)
Finley or Haskins in the 2nd. Or trading back in the first.

Of course I still haven't seen much of guys like Rypien or that kid from Northwestern. But I haven't gone full draft mode yet with 8 games remaining.

I never said Grier was a scrub. I have the QB's ranked.....

1. Herbert
2. Haskins
3. Lock
4. Grier
5. Rypien
6. Jones
7. Finley
8. Thorsen

I simply want the Jags to take the best possible QB and I don't believe that is Grier. I just see him as too much of a risk. Lock I am on the fence about and I see enough in Haskins that makes me believe he can be a franchise QB in time, but I wouldn't start him right away. Herbert is the only guy I have no reservations about. I hate drafting QB's, because if you take the wrong one, it can set your team back for years and we simply cannot screw up again. I believe Herbert, Haskins, Lock and Grier are all first rounders, should they declare. Personally, I'd only take Herbert and to a lesser degree, Haskins with a first round selection though. If those two are not a possibility, I believe taking Rypien in the 3rd makes much more sense. He flashes at times and I can see him being good, with the right NFL coaching, but he is far from a sure thing. Taking him in the 3rd would be minimal risk and would allow us to cut ties, should he turn out to be a bust. 

I just saw much more promise in the 2018 QB class than I see in this one. I don't hate Grier at all, I just don't have the confidence in him that you do. I still believe he goes in the mid to latter part of the first round though. Possibly to Miami, Denver or Tampa Bay. Maybe even as a QB of the future for the Chargers or Saints.

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