(12-22-2018, 03:04 PM)mikesez Wrote:

(12-22-2018, 10:00 AM)Sneakers Wrote: Hey, it's great that you recognize we have a problem and want to prevent it.  It sounds like your only point of contention now is the design of the actual physical barrier and it's relative value.  What type of "fence" do you envision?  I don't think the stuff you can buy at Home Depot is going to get the job done.

I drive by one of the two prison facilities in Orange County from time to time. Two layers of twelve foot high chain link fence with barbed wire loops at the top seem to do the job quite well, but you only need that level of security in areas that are highly populated or highly developed, near roads or cities for instance. And other areas, all you need is patrol by vehicles and aircraft and maybe a few lookout towers per mile.

It works for prisons because they know their inmates don’t have wire cutters. It’s a whole lot easier to bring wire cutters than a freaking 30-foot ladder. 

Do you not understand how difficult it’d be to carry a 30-foot ladder for every single group crossing the border? That alone would deter a great many that can’t get one, and it drastically slow those already with one. For you to say it offers nothing is naive. Especially since you think it’s equal to not having one at all.

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