(01-08-2019, 11:26 PM)mikesez Wrote:

(01-08-2019, 11:17 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: One guy talked about border security.

The two other guys talked about a shutdown and denying people were murdered by illegals. Terrible night for dems.

If someone told you that we need to ban alcohol now because their mom was killed by a drunk, you would say hey wait a second people get killed by people that are not drunk all the time, what is the prevalence? Or you would say, that doesn't matter people have a right to drink if they want to. You're a rational person.  A handful of stories is not going to change your mind. Even if those stories are really sad. 

But statistics might change your mind, right?

I don't see exactly how your examples are related to the crisis at the border. It is actually a FACT that 6 men have been caught that were on the terror watch list at the border.

Also, the people doing these things you mention SHOULDN'T BE IN OUR COUNTRY. The entire point of this issue is being lost in the mix.

My main issue is, why do regular civilians feel they are more qualified to say what we need or don't need at the border? Are people under the belief that Donald Trump programmed these border agents to say what he wants? You are right, I am a rational person. If the border patrol said, hey, you know what? A wall won't be really effective, I would actually take them at their word.

Also, not helping the democrats "argument", former Obama Administration Border Patrol Chief Mark Morgan who was FIRED by Trump just said a border wall will work.

Democrats aren't going to win this battle and are looking very foolish trying to defend their position.

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