(01-11-2019, 02:58 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote:

(01-10-2019, 09:42 PM)JackCity Wrote: Give 3 examples of some "quick vertical" passes you can do easier and quicker than a bubble screen. The whole point of bubble screens is to go horizontal, take some heat off the rush, and give easy completions/YAC potential.  

And yeah thats not good playcalling. Its a fine line between trying to make up for a god awful line while so trying to be progressive with the ball. From what I've read Bevell struggled with that at times. But also, every playcaller has sequences like that.

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2-3 yard hooks are more effective than bubble screens, so are regular screen passes, if you complete them. You're probably making positive yardage, albeit minimal yards, but I am fine with that. On the other hand, using bubble screens over and over is a lateral pass, sometimes behind the line. Not only do you have to worry that if it's incomplete, it could be counted as a fumble, but it's not as fast developing as you's think. The receiver has to turn toward the QB to make the catch, turn up field and start running before the DB or linebacker recognizes the play and you'd better have fast receivers or the play is dead in the water. It's not something that is meant to be used back to back, but I saw Bevell do this several times during his time with the Seahawks. It seemed like his "go to" play, even though it rarely worked. Seattle just didn't have the type of quick receivers needed to make that play successful, but it didn't stop Bevell.

2-3 yard hooks don't allow for as much YAC. Yeah regular screens are fine too but they aren't vertical.   

Nobody is saying use them over but they are a necessary part of a gameplan with a line that bad. They are gonna be used a lot more with an inept pass blocking line like the Seahawks had compared to most teams. Yeah it wasn't used anywhere near enough to be counted as his "go to play". Seattle didn't have quick receivers? Golden Tate, Doug Baldwin, Tyler Lockett....all were commonly used on screens.

The strategy behind bubble screens is they essentially serve as running plays with favorable numbers and force the defense to adapt to them. You get a playmaker in space usually with a 1v1 vs a corner and most of time they work pretty well. Not sure I get why you don't like them so much.

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