(02-16-2019, 09:05 AM)JackCity Wrote:

(02-16-2019, 05:16 AM)lastonealive Wrote: That's incorrect. luck was 10-12 from 2015-2017. He improved to 10-6 in 2018 with a good run game a great oline and a good D. He has also thrown 56 picks in his last 54 starts and has thrown more interceptions than tds in the playoffs averaging 1.5 picks a game. He certainly isn't noticeably better than the group listed.

He beat up the afc south when it was garbage his first couple of years and struggled against everyone else.

You forgot to include the other years, you know, the ones where he wasn't badly injured. 

Your Andrew Luck = Andy Dalton is a very interesting hill to die on. Delusional but interesting nonetheless.

lastonealive  only uses Injuries to prop up his position when debating Bortles effectiveness.  Luck had his worst season playing with that shoulder injury, while also playing behind a hodgepodge of O-line combinations because of  multiple o-line injuries.  Cam Newton struggled last season as well, so I wouldn't judge his overall career without taking that in to account ... but, i'm not the lastonealive.

I can't disagree with lastonealive about Bortles 2018 season ... It is very valid that Bortles would have played better had the Jags o-line not been decimated by injuries. How much better is the question. I seen an article the other day that Bortles and Flacco were the bottom two Quarterbacks (QB rating) over the course of the last 4 seasons when comparing QB's that had thrown more than 300 passes over that time period. Something along that line, i'm too lazy to look it back up. It's a larger sample size, so a better method of determining their overall abilities.


Okay, I did a quick search .... Quote "Only two quarterbacks in the NFL have thrown 300 or more passes and had a below-average passer rating each of the last four seasons: Blake Bortles and Flacco."

https://sports.yahoo.com/joe-flacco-stat...24896.html

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