(02-20-2019, 02:35 AM)JagNGeorgia Wrote:

(02-18-2019, 02:09 PM)Bullseye Wrote: (Emphasis added)

As to the italicized portion, I have a few questions for you...

1.  Have you seen the case law for collusion cases?

2.  Do you know what the standard is for summary judgment?

3.  Have you seen the discovery materials related to this case?

Perhaps that's why you don't understand why the suit was allowed to continue.

As to the portion in bold, taking your description of Kaepernick's skills at face value, there are plenty of QBs that have been in the league the past 2-3 years that never even reached the "just decent" level of play, including Blaine Gabbert, Nathan Peterman, and Cody Kessler.

As to the assessment of his last two seasons, I am mystified as to which two seasons you refer.

Statistically, he had one bad season where he had a rating in the 70s....that was 2015, where he had a rating of 78.5.  Beyond that, his post Super Bowl appearance seasons had ratings of 86.4, 78.5, and 90.7-his last year (the one where he was "beaten out" by Gabbert).

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/p...epCo00.htm

If you want to cite his record as a starter, note the defense in his last year was rock bottom in the league in many many categories, including points allowed and yards.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/t...o/2016.htm

Also note the team's W-L problems continued after he left.  As it stands now, the 49ers pick 2nd in the draft.  It isn't because of Kaepernick, and they didn't trade up to get that spot.

It's disingenuous to blame him for all of that.

No, admittedly I don't know what's required for collusion cases, but I also wouldn't assume his case would justify an estimated $60M settlement. A number, if true, is likely significantly less than what he asked. I don't pretend to know if his case is text book collusion, but that's also partly why I said I don't understand why it was allowed to continued. Similarly, I'd ask if you know (and how you know) if his case is one of collusion. It's difficult to understand your first and second points since I don't know of any other instances in sports where collusion was cited. 

I think you may be confusing my point.

I never said he didn't belong in the NFL. I do believe teams avoided him because of his protesting, but I believe teams use personal reasons to avoid players. If he was good enough to overlook his protesting, I don't doubt he'd still be on a team. My stance is that he's overrated and hasn't produced a season worthy of praise. He had a couple decent seasons. However, like how you contribute some of their failures to their defense, I contribute some of their success to the defense.

Defensive rankings:
2012--3rd
2013--5th
2014--10th
2015--29th
2016--32nd

I think this hurts your stance. They were only good when their defense was good. Kaep was just good enough to take advantage of that, but he wasn't good enough to overcome it.

The reason the NFL settled is so their dirty laundry wasn't aired out. They probably would have won the case. The cost of silence from Kap and Reid would definitely cost a significant amount of money.   

Kind of lazy to ignore the total talent and coaching drop off from 2012 to 2016. Not many QBs would have made those 49ers teams good in 2015/2016, even still he looked like a starting caliber QB in 2016 , despite nothing around him

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