(02-20-2019, 11:02 AM)B2hibry Wrote:

(02-18-2019, 02:09 PM)Bullseye Wrote: (Emphasis added)

As to the italicized portion, I have a few questions for you...

1.  Have you seen the case law for collusion cases?

2.  Do you know what the standard is for summary judgment?

3.  Have you seen the discovery materials related to this case?

Perhaps that's why you don't understand why the suit was allowed to continue.

As to the portion in bold, taking your description of Kaepernick's skills at face value, there are plenty of QBs that have been in the league the past 2-3 years that never even reached the "just decent" level of play, including Blaine Gabbert, Nathan Peterman, and Cody Kessler.

As to the assessment of his last two seasons, I am mystified as to which two seasons you refer.

Statistically, he had one bad season where he had a rating in the 70s....that was 2015, where he had a rating of 78.5.  Beyond that, his post Super Bowl appearance seasons had ratings of 86.4, 78.5, and 90.7-his last year (the one where he was "beaten out" by Gabbert).

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/p...epCo00.htm

If you want to cite his record as a starter, note the defense in his last year was rock bottom in the league in many many categories, including points allowed and yards.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/t...o/2016.htm

Also note the team's W-L problems continued after he left.  As it stands now, the 49ers pick 2nd in the draft.  It isn't because of Kaepernick, and they didn't trade up to get that spot.

It's disingenuous to blame him for all of that.

What does any of this matter if HE turned down multiple offers in the NFL and the new AAF? He wasn't interested in playing again no matter what his agent was throwing out there. This was a target of opportunity and money grab.

Were he not interested in playing again, why would he not have filed retirement papers to the NFL?  Why would his lawyer now emphatically say Kaepernick is still interested in playing?

His refusal to play in the AAF is hardly persuasive here, since it is a brand new league on dubious financial footing.  The Orlando team is practicing in Georgia because of the Worker's Comp laws.

Furthermore, Why was there opportunity?  What distinguishes Kaepernick from a training camp cut if there were zero basis for his claim?

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(02-20-2019, 11:29 AM)JackCity Wrote:

(02-20-2019, 11:02 AM)B2hibry Wrote: What does any of this matter if HE turned down multiple offers in the NFL and the new AAF? He wasn't interested in playing again no matter what his agent was throwing out there. This was a target of opportunity and money grab.

1) He didn't turn down offers in the NFL after the protest 
2) The AAF asked if he was interested and declined , the reports of him being offered 20 million were false. All players are paid the same amount. Manziel was asked too and declined,  no big contract offer
3) His lawsuit vs the NFL was always specifically about the loss of earnings he suffered. Settlement was always the desired outcome as he was never going to win the case outright.

I don't mind not liking Kap as QB or even a person for that matter, but people aren't fond of using actual facts to critique him.

For the recrod, he wasn't offered $20 million to play in the AAF.  He asked for $20 million to play in the AAF, knowing they likely couldn't pay it.

He wants to play in the NFL because he is good enough and it is the most stable league around.

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(02-20-2019, 01:34 PM)JagNGeorgia Wrote:

(02-20-2019, 06:49 AM)JackCity Wrote: The reason the NFL settled is so their dirty laundry wasn't aired out. They probably would have won the case. The cost of silence from Kap and Reid would definitely cost a significant amount of money.   

Kind of lazy to ignore the total talent and coaching drop off from 2012 to 2016. Not many QBs would have made those 49ers teams good in 2015/2016, even still he looked like a starting caliber QB in 2016 , despite nothing around him

Do you give Bortles the same pass? We could say the same thing about him and our offense. 

I'm not ignoring it. I'm saying he isn't good enough to ignore the drama he's going to bring with him.

I gave Bortles and Leftwich the same pass.

QBs need surrounding talent to succeed.

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