(02-22-2019, 09:26 AM)jj82284 Wrote:

(02-22-2019, 08:16 AM)mikesez Wrote: a) listen to yourself. Mistakes happen, and must be learned from, but trying to leverage dead American soldiers for political advantage is disgusting. Democrats in 1983 recognized this. Republicans in 2012 should have done better.

B) I'm not sure I get the relevance. Neither the unofficial consulate nor the CIA annex were well-know, high value targets. Not like an embassy or barracks.

C) again listen to yourself. You're saying the Democrats didn't go after Schultz because Schultz wasn't very valuable to the Republican party plans. And that the Republicans went after Clinton because she was valuable to Democrats. again you're taking it as a given that Congressional investigators would put party first over dead American soldiers, and you don't seem to be conscious of how disgusting it is to the memory of those soldiers and how corrosive it will be for our republic in general. You also don't seem conscious of the fact that this supports my original point, let the investigations into Trump going forward will follow the pattern of the investigations of Benghazi. Trump is also a high-value target like Clinton was. If you're going to justify endless and pointless partisan investigations based on the value of the target, then turnabout is definitely fair play.

D) that's a fair point. we never did get to the bottom of why Susan Rice said the provable falsehoods that she said. of all the things that transpired from the moment after bad guys open fire on us in Benghazi, this is the one undeniable mistake that the administration at the time made. but within 24 hours all of the other Democrats and all of the media were unified and saying that there was no truth to what Susan Rice had said. this is where the Benghazi thing gets really similar to what Trump has done and what his administration is about to experience from the House. Trump and his people go on TV and utter provable falsehoods all the time.

Next time just lead with the fact I was right, they were different and save yourself the typing.

I've made two basic points:
a) the only significant difference between Beirut and Benghazi is that one party saw an opportunity to smear the other and took it, and this is a disgusting degradation of our national spirit,

b) Democrats in the House will endlessly needle Trump over Russia the same way Republicans in the House needled Clinton over Benghazi, to return the favor.

You're not disputing either point, but you're failing to capture how disgusting I find all of this, and how ashamed I want the proponents to be for their behavior.  To the extent you're catching my drift at all, you tried to blame the Democrats for Republicans politicizing Benghazi, predictably, but it came across to me as Bart grabbing Lisa's arms and telling her to stop punching herself.

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