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Ed Oliver

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(03-08-2019, 06:31 PM)Eric1 Wrote:
(03-08-2019, 06:11 PM)JackCity Wrote: What? I don't know how you took any of that from what I just said. 

Bryan was never going to contribute or play alot as a rookie. Before I'm comfortable with him as the main source of interior pressure I'd like to see him doing it first i.e without actually seeing him do it we don't know if he can be it yet. His rookie year gave us tiny flashes of his AA but that's about it. 

I don't get the opposition to not being totally sold on Bryan being a good pass rusher in a key role in year 2 based on everything we've seen. We all knew he's a raw pass rusher who would take time to develop when we drafted him.

You said that he barely played at his position this past season, and that's because of Malik, as well as they wanted to try Bryan out at the 5T. After that didn't really pan out and the season was well out of reach, they finally started playing guys for the future. Of course he wasn't going to see a lot of time at 3T. We all knew Bryan was a draft pick for the future and not year 1.

And that's exactly it, you keep saying "based on what we've seen", yet we haven't seen much of Bryan (due to how stacked this DL was) to really make that judgement. Which is why it's dumb to call him a good pass rusher, or a bad one at this point in time. You saying that you just don't see it when it comes to him, doesn't make any sense, because hes barely got his toe wet. As well as the fact that DL players rarely produce in their rookie year anyways.

The little bit we got to see of him at the 3T should get people a little excited and hopeful to see what kind of step he'll take next season.

Yeah that's just the reality of what his rookie season was. That wasn't a surprise nor would I have expected him to play ahead of or take snaps off Malik. This wasn't news, it just means we don't have much to go off even independent from his actual performance. 

I'm not sure I can lay out my thought process here clearer than I have. Bryan is a raw pass rusher who we knew will take a while to develop, he didn't show much in his limited time as a rookie so I'm not going to expect him to suddenly become a good pass rusher in year 2. He is a ? mark at that spot as everything stands right now, and that's a very important spot for our defense.  

That doesn't mean he won't ever be good nor does it mean he won't play well and develop quickly. It just means I'm not gonna expect it. Until we actually see it happen, it's a ? mark. 

I have the same thought process with DJ Chark. I'm not gonna expect DJ Chark to be a good NFL receiver in year 2 based on the limited amount of reps we saw him have as a rookie. If he does great but thats not my expectation.
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Ed Oliver - by JNev - 02-06-2019, 01:08 PM
RE: Ed Oliver - by TheO-LineMatters - 02-06-2019, 03:50 PM
RE: Ed Oliver - by knarnn - 02-06-2019, 08:55 PM
RE: Ed Oliver - by JackCity - 02-06-2019, 09:05 PM
RE: Ed Oliver - by TheO-LineMatters - 02-06-2019, 11:39 PM
RE: Ed Oliver - by JackCity - 02-07-2019, 12:40 AM
RE: Ed Oliver - by Eric1 - 02-07-2019, 12:46 AM
RE: Ed Oliver - by JackCity - 02-07-2019, 02:22 AM
RE: Ed Oliver - by TheO-LineMatters - 02-07-2019, 05:24 AM
RE: Ed Oliver - by JackCity - 02-07-2019, 09:02 AM
RE: Ed Oliver - by flgatorsandjags - 02-07-2019, 01:19 PM
RE: Ed Oliver - by JackCity - 02-07-2019, 03:18 PM
RE: Ed Oliver - by TheO-LineMatters - 02-07-2019, 04:17 PM
RE: Ed Oliver - by flgatorsandjags - 02-07-2019, 06:50 PM
RE: Ed Oliver - by JackCity - 02-08-2019, 01:39 AM
RE: Ed Oliver - by Eric1 - 02-08-2019, 02:40 AM
RE: Ed Oliver - by JackCity - 02-08-2019, 03:18 AM
RE: Ed Oliver - by Eric1 - 02-08-2019, 03:50 AM
RE: Ed Oliver - by JackCity - 02-08-2019, 04:21 AM
RE: Ed Oliver - by Eric1 - 02-08-2019, 04:52 AM
RE: Ed Oliver - by JackCity - 02-08-2019, 05:55 AM
RE: Ed Oliver - by Eric1 - 02-08-2019, 06:43 AM
RE: Ed Oliver - by JackCity - 02-08-2019, 01:22 PM
RE: Ed Oliver - by flgatorsandjags - 02-08-2019, 04:14 PM
RE: Ed Oliver - by NYC4jags - 02-08-2019, 05:04 PM
RE: Ed Oliver - by flgatorsandjags - 02-08-2019, 07:51 PM
RE: Ed Oliver - by TheDogCatcher - 04-03-2019, 03:01 AM
RE: Ed Oliver - by flgatorsandjags - 04-03-2019, 07:00 AM
RE: Ed Oliver - by JackCity - 02-08-2019, 05:08 PM
RE: Ed Oliver - by Bullseye - 03-06-2019, 10:31 PM
RE: Ed Oliver - by Dimson - 03-07-2019, 11:43 AM
RE: Ed Oliver - by Eric1 - 03-07-2019, 04:28 PM
RE: Ed Oliver - by JackCity - 03-07-2019, 04:40 PM
RE: Ed Oliver - by Eric1 - 03-07-2019, 04:46 PM
RE: Ed Oliver - by JackCity - 03-07-2019, 04:51 PM
RE: Ed Oliver - by Eric1 - 03-07-2019, 05:10 PM
RE: Ed Oliver - by JackCity - 03-07-2019, 05:16 PM
RE: Ed Oliver - by Eric1 - 03-08-2019, 04:27 PM
RE: Ed Oliver - by JackCity - 03-08-2019, 04:43 PM
RE: Ed Oliver - by Eric1 - 03-08-2019, 05:03 PM
RE: Ed Oliver - by JackCity - 03-08-2019, 05:15 PM
RE: Ed Oliver - by Eric1 - 03-08-2019, 05:41 PM
RE: Ed Oliver - by JackCity - 03-08-2019, 06:11 PM
RE: Ed Oliver - by Eric1 - 03-08-2019, 06:31 PM
RE: Ed Oliver - by JackCity - 03-08-2019, 07:26 PM
RE: Ed Oliver - by Dimson - 02-08-2019, 12:39 AM
RE: Ed Oliver - by JackCity - 09-03-2019, 02:18 PM
RE: Ed Oliver - by Eye of the Storm - 09-03-2019, 10:25 PM
RE: Ed Oliver - by flgatorsandjags - 02-08-2019, 07:58 PM
RE: Ed Oliver - by JackCity - 02-08-2019, 08:47 PM
RE: Ed Oliver - by surfon - 03-06-2019, 10:20 PM
RE: Ed Oliver - by JackCity - 03-07-2019, 02:42 AM
RE: Ed Oliver - by Cleatwood - 03-07-2019, 04:58 PM
RE: Ed Oliver - by JNev - 03-21-2019, 12:42 AM
RE: Ed Oliver - by The Real Marty - 03-21-2019, 07:17 AM
RE: Ed Oliver - by JNev - 03-21-2019, 12:14 PM
RE: Ed Oliver - by nhiverson - 03-21-2019, 08:25 AM
RE: Ed Oliver - by TheO-LineMatters - 03-21-2019, 10:29 AM
RE: Ed Oliver - by Dimson - 03-21-2019, 10:32 AM
RE: Ed Oliver - by TheO-LineMatters - 03-21-2019, 10:36 AM
RE: Ed Oliver - by Dimson - 03-21-2019, 10:38 AM
RE: Ed Oliver - by The Real Marty - 03-21-2019, 12:24 PM
RE: Ed Oliver - by flgatorsandjags - 03-28-2019, 06:33 PM
RE: Ed Oliver - by Jagsfan32277 - 03-28-2019, 08:01 PM
RE: Ed Oliver - by flgatorsandjags - 03-28-2019, 08:10 PM
RE: Ed Oliver - by surfon - 03-28-2019, 08:22 PM
RE: Ed Oliver - by flgatorsandjags - 03-28-2019, 09:07 PM
RE: Ed Oliver - by TheO-LineMatters - 03-28-2019, 10:49 PM
RE: Ed Oliver - by flgatorsandjags - 04-02-2019, 09:01 AM
RE: Ed Oliver - by The Real Marty - 04-02-2019, 09:43 AM
RE: Ed Oliver - by flgatorsandjags - 04-02-2019, 09:52 AM
RE: Ed Oliver - by Upper - 04-02-2019, 10:03 AM
RE: Ed Oliver - by flgatorsandjags - 04-02-2019, 10:05 AM
RE: Ed Oliver - by JackCity - 04-02-2019, 10:24 AM
RE: Ed Oliver - by flgatorsandjags - 04-02-2019, 10:32 AM
RE: Ed Oliver - by JackCity - 04-02-2019, 10:56 AM
RE: Ed Oliver - by flgatorsandjags - 04-02-2019, 11:20 AM
RE: Ed Oliver - by JackCity - 04-02-2019, 11:47 AM
RE: Ed Oliver - by Upper - 04-02-2019, 12:17 PM
RE: Ed Oliver - by JackCity - 04-02-2019, 12:22 PM
RE: Ed Oliver - by flgatorsandjags - 04-02-2019, 12:27 PM
RE: Ed Oliver - by knarnn - 04-02-2019, 01:00 PM
RE: Ed Oliver - by Dimson - 04-02-2019, 01:14 PM
RE: Ed Oliver - by Upper - 04-02-2019, 02:38 PM
RE: Ed Oliver - by irontrooper83 - 04-07-2019, 04:49 AM
RE: Ed Oliver - by JackCity - 04-07-2019, 10:10 AM
RE: Ed Oliver - by irontrooper83 - 04-07-2019, 11:03 AM
RE: Ed Oliver - by TheO-LineMatters - 04-07-2019, 11:07 AM
RE: Ed Oliver - by Upper - 04-07-2019, 02:36 PM
RE: Ed Oliver - by Cleatwood - 04-08-2019, 08:40 AM
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