(03-01-2019, 07:22 PM)Bullseye Wrote: What guy or guys would you not want the Jaguars to draft under any circumstances?

The guy at the top of that list is Houston DT Ed Oliver. 

First, DT is far from this team's biggest need, even if Jackson is cut and you have your doubts about Bryan.

Secondly, Oliver is undersized.  One of the reasons Jackson is on his way out after being benched is because he played at a very light weight.

Furthermore, there have been many reports that Oliver was an off field concern, which is the last thing this team needs after last year.

Another guy on that list, at least at 7 overall, is Kyler Murray.  Bill Polian put it best, that if you take him, you'd better be prepared to change your offense completely around to an air raid type scheme.  Air raid type schemes don't work in the NFL, and would be a bad bad fit with our team.  Furthermore, the fact is he's too small.  Though he measured bigger than I'd feared, there is a reason teams tend to err towards the bigger player.  Add in the fact he's got just a year of experience and can always hold baseball over the head of any team he doesn't like, I wouldn't want the team to take the risk on him.

So who are the guys you want the Jaguars to avoid?

I think every player has a value at some point, so if you really mean that I would not want the Jags to draft them "under any circumstance," I don't really know of any in the top 100.   Even Ed Oliver, sure, you may not want him at #7, but how about in the 6th round?  

Maybe you didn't really mean "under any circumstance."

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(03-02-2019, 01:56 PM)BlueEyedJag Wrote:

(03-02-2019, 01:39 PM)PF* Wrote: Assuming we get Foles, draft Devin White, LB LSU.

MLB is the last piece of the great defense- we move Jack back outside where he belongs and move Telvin Smith for a 5th.
Even more ideal would be to trade down to MIA at 13, take White there (but he'll be gone) and pick up an extra pick or two.

No Foles, then I don't know what to do. Everyone here is smarter than me and most, except Rico, are better looking so I'll defer to your sage observations.

On-Topic: no way- Ed Oliver, Marquise Lisfranc Brown, Kyler Murray, any CB, DT or S.

No to defense in any of the first three rounds...

We need QB/RG/TE just make the O serviceable.  Also could use RT/TE2/WR.

I don't think you can say "No to defense in any of the first three rounds."  How about Nick Bosa at #7?   How about if we trade down to #10 and Quinnen Williams falls into our lap?   

At some point, value trumps need.   Figure out how to do RG/TE.   You don't pass on Michael Jordan because you need a center.

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