(03-13-2019, 02:07 PM)rpr52121 Wrote:

(03-13-2019, 01:34 PM)SignMeUpAtQB Wrote: Lost Jackson and Gipson, with no replacements (Bryan looked average at best). Might see our defensive output drop a little. Offense is still terrible as of now (pre draft).

Now we are stuck with an average QB with loads of guarantees (and l imagine the cap hit is pushed towards the later years of Foles contract, which will limit flexibility). Next year we will need to retool the defense anyway bcs of the extensions, in the long run, Foles hurts more than he helps. You dont cash in for average, even if it means you are slightly better than what you were before for one freaking season. Thats a cheap move by the FO to make themselves look better and it seems to be working. The FO sold uns the Bortles to Foles upgrade for one year and people seriously think we are winning the superbowl this coming season.

Bottom line is, we went for average rather than taking the risk of getting a potential Franchise QB through the draft, not only that, but we are stuck with said average quarterback even though after the next coming season the defense will look different once we extend our best players, closing our win now window and forcing us to turn to the draft/FA to fill key positions anyway (both on offense and defense). Since Foles costs so freaking much, high profile FAs are out of the questions.
So basically next season is Boom or bust and after that the Foles contract limits our financial flexibility, which will mean that we will depend on the draft anyway to "rebuild" the team. Therefore imo we might as well have drafted a potential franchise QB instead of signing Foles.

Here is the thing. In 12 years, this franchise has been average or better only 2 times with only 1 playoff appearance.

Everyone always talks about the draft being the only way to get a Franchise QB, and statistically that is correct. But mainly because, once someone figures it out they never let them go. But finding that right guy is always a risky bet. A franchise take draft stabs for 20+ years and never find one and always draft one in the wrong year, have the wrong staff when they do, etc. In fact that happens to most NFL franchises. I think Mahomes is first QB the Chiefs have ever drafted to look like he will pan out, since 1960.

Yes, they probably paid Foles too much. Yes, this team has question marks, some huge questions marks. Every season, every NFL team has question marks especially in March, in June, In August. Most playoff teams still have question marks in January. Every good team though needs more than just the QB to win too. Yes they will lose some players this year, but the defense is easily still top 10. I rather take a bet on this current defense to return to some of the level they showed in 2017 and on more healthy on offense, be average or better to get into the playoffs for a year or 2 and see what happens.

I'd rather have a few seasons of average to good football, some playoffs, and a shot of more. They can always try to draft a franchise QB another year.

Everything you said AND Coughlin is getting up there; he doesn't want to spin his wheels for 3 years to draft and develop a QB, and that is IF they even find a legit franchise QB (as you point out, there is no guarantee you WILL even draft the right one. Did they not try that with Leftwich, Gabbert, Bortles?)

Everything considered, I'd have signed Foles, too. He's PROVEN he can win a ring, and even if that isn't likely, you KNOW it's possible with him. Bortles is one of the very worst first-round QBs to make it to a conference championship game. He is garbage. (24th in passing yards, 79.8 rating). 

Coughlin wants to compete now, even if odds aren't the greatest, at least they have a hope of contending with Foles. Plus, his teammates love and fight for him; I'm not sure Bortles brings that quality.

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