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To those of you disappointed by the Foles deal, what would you have done differently?

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(This post was last modified: 03-13-2019, 07:15 PM by Caldrac.)

(03-13-2019, 12:07 PM)JagFanFirst Wrote: Don't tell me you'd take Haskins or Murray, because those two players will be gone before the seventh pick. So now what?  Do you trade up to get Haskins? If Foles needs more offensive weapons to succeed, then the same can be said of Haskins.  And yet with a trade, you'd have fewer picks to acquire those players. Sure, you can grab at TE or WR in free agency, but what makes you think the Jags wouldn't overpay for them, like this did for Moncrief?  The fact is, Foles' salary puts him roughly among the top 15 QBs in the league, which, based on his last two seasons, is where he belongs. 

If you discard Foles (and can't get Haskins or Murray), then what?  Do you draft Grier, or Jones with the second pick? What if those guys aren't available? And even if they were, do you feel comfortable starting a second-tier rookie from a bad quarterback class?

And what about free agent quarterbacks? You'd rather have Bridgewater than Foles? How about Tannehill, the guy who we beat last year on his own home field?

What about a trade for a backup quarterback?  What about Nick Mullens, a guy who's TDs and INTs were nearly identical to Bortles? 10-13 vs. 11-13? Who else is available? Tyrod Taylor? Seriously?

Here's what I like about the Foles deal.  Next year, the Jags are going to play the toughest schedule in their history. I can't think of one weak team--even the Jets, with Bell and an improved Darnold, will be tough. But Foles has been through this. He's flourished in one of the toughest media markets in the country.  When he started last year at the end of the season, the Eagles had to win every game to squeak into the playoffs. And they did, with Foles. Plus, since the Jags didn't have to give up any picks to get him, they can use that 1st, that 2nd, and those two 3rds to fill a lot of holes in the offense.

Thoughts?

It's not my money. So I really don't give a [BLEEP] what the team does. Everything I say is just an opinion. With that said...

I honestly wasn't sold nor convinced that our solution at QB was going to be found during this year's off season. I don't like any of this year's QB's in next month's draft. At least not with a top ten selection. And I don't think Foles being here, even with his former QB coach is enough to really get this team over the hump. Our offense is a god damned [BLEEP] show. Between the injuries, lack of depth and lack of experience it's a glaring problem. 

Foles isn't going to come in here and fix all of it on his own. His supporting cast with the Eagles, whether it was under Chip Kelly or Doug Pederson, it was vastly.... VASTLY superior to the tools he'll be handed this summer to start training camp with. And even if they go all out on offense with this year's class. It's seldom you see instant impact from rookies at skill positions. It can happen. But it is indeed rare that it does. 

I don't buy into that Strength of Schedule bull [BLEEP] either. It looks tough on paper. But what's on paper Vs. what happens between training camp, the draft, free agency, preseason and prior to the individual match-up's on a week-to-week basis is anybody's guess. We had a soft schedule in 2017 when you looked at the injuries that hindered our entire division. And we still managed to beat Buffalo at home, Pittsburgh on the road and we could have and SHOULD have walked away from New England with our first trip to a Superbowl had this coaching staff not called a pansy [BLEEP] game in the 2nd half. 

I don't think Foles contract is as bad as some people think it is around here. It's not like we're on the hook with an Alex Smith contract and situation. Or an underwhelming performer like Kirk Cousins sporting an overwhelming cap hit where he basically showed the NFL last year that he's an okay QB and not a franchise QB. Even with the talent he had around him with the Vikings, and even with his OC being fired (our guy now... by the way), he still failed to live up to the off season hype. 

I think we'll be getting the diet version of Kirk Cousins in 2019 with Nick Foles under center. Was he the best option for the price tag? I don't know. Remains to be seen. But they could have pursued Tyrod Taylor who is capable of managing games and not costing his team any games with a defense that may only need a FS and ILB to fix some of it's miscues from 2018. But it's a lot of work in progress. 

So, in fairness. I'll say this. I am currently indifferent to the signing of Nick Foles because it's a pretty [BLEEP] year to get a QB. Just too many questions regarding this offense at the moment. And even IF they manage to stay healthy for roughly 75% of the games this year. We still have to worry about the new OC clicking with Foles and this personnel. We'll also more than likely be leaning on several rookies and 2nd - 3rd year players again. And it's yet another learning curve for all involved. So, I would just say to those who feel Foles is the answer to our prayers. 

Dial it back a little. Nick Foles is in Jacksonville now. Not Philadelphia. The Eagles won a Superbowl. Not just Foles. And people seem to forget that [BLEEP]. But not me....

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RE: To those of you disappointed by the Foles deal, what would you have done differently? - by Caldrac - 03-13-2019, 07:11 PM



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