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Offensive Philosophy (merged)

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(03-14-2019, 03:48 PM)Cleatwood Wrote:
(03-14-2019, 03:46 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: I don't buy the idea that the team had to "dumb down" the playbook for Bortles, at least not the past 2 or 3 seasons.  While he isn't/wasn't a very good QB, he's still pretty intelligent.

With that being said I like the idea of being "balanced".  I would still focus on being run-first with the ability to open it up passing should teams stack the box.  Once teams are forced to play what I call "honest" (ie. not stacking the box against the run) the run game can be very effective.  The problem wasn't just the QB position, though that was a major portion of it.  Other parts of the problem included ineffective receivers, the lack of good O line play (injuries played a role here) and the lack of a good TE.

One part of the equation has been addressed with signing Nick Foles.  Plug in 1 or 2 good O-linemen, a good hybrid TE and receivers that can get open and not drop passes are the rest of the equation.
What are you basing this off of?

You can watch the games and see that he's not making 2 or 3 reads in a game. You can watch the games and see they run a super simple offense with crossers all the time.

One thing that makes me think that is a video that I saw... I think he was mic'ed up during the game and when he heard the play called he knew that it was going to be a touchdown pass.  Also, contrary to the Madden players here a QB doesn't make "2 or 3 reads" on a play.  It's basically one read and if it's not there there's either an alternate "dump off" or the ball gets thrown away.

The QB often will call two plays in the huddle and when they come to the line of scrimmage and look at the defense, they have the option to check out of the play or audible.  He did do that.

(03-14-2019, 03:53 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:
(03-14-2019, 03:46 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: I don't buy the idea that the team had to "dumb down" the playbook for Bortles, at least not the past 2 or 3 seasons.  While he isn't/wasn't a very good QB, he's still pretty intelligent.

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They definitely had to remove a large number of route possibilities from the receivers' route tree because Bortles threw so many of them with wild inaccuracy. 

There was a stark difference between what Olson let him do compared to Fisch, and then Hackett ripped even more pages out when he took over for Hackett.  Mitigation of turnovers was the name of the game when handling Blake Bortles - and that involved removing throws he couldn't make from ever being called. 

Foles has a much shorter list of throws that will need to be edited out of the playbook.

And you know this how?  There aren't that many different routes that a receiver runs.


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Offensive System - by The Real Marty - 03-07-2019, 06:52 AM
RE: Offensive Philosophy (merged) - by JAGFAN88 - 03-12-2019, 01:06 PM
RE: Offensive Philosophy (merged) - by NYC4jags - 03-12-2019, 01:13 PM
RE: Offensive Philosophy (merged) - by JAGFAN88 - 03-12-2019, 01:29 PM
RE: Offensive Philosophy (merged) - by NYC4jags - 03-12-2019, 01:35 PM
RE: Offensive Philosophy (merged) - by JAGFAN88 - 03-12-2019, 01:41 PM
RE: Offensive Philosophy (merged) - by Cleatwood - 03-12-2019, 02:24 PM
RE: Offensive Philosophy (merged) - by Cleatwood - 03-12-2019, 01:25 PM
RE: Offensive Philosophy (merged) - by JackCity - 03-13-2019, 06:33 PM
RE: Offensive Philosophy (merged) - by NYC4jags - 03-13-2019, 06:44 PM
RE: Offensive Philosophy (merged) - by JackCity - 03-13-2019, 06:49 PM
RE: Offensive Philosophy (merged) - by NYC4jags - 03-13-2019, 06:53 PM
RE: Offensive Philosophy (merged) - by JackCity - 03-13-2019, 07:08 PM
RE: Offensive Philosophy (merged) - by NYC4jags - 03-13-2019, 07:16 PM
RE: Offensive Philosophy (merged) - by Jags - 03-13-2019, 06:44 PM
RE: Offensive Philosophy (merged) - by JagJohn - 03-13-2019, 08:54 PM
RE: Offensive Philosophy (merged) - by knarnn - 03-14-2019, 01:46 PM
RE: Offensive Philosophy (merged) - by JackCity - 03-14-2019, 03:31 PM
RE: Offensive Philosophy (merged) - by NYC4jags - 03-14-2019, 03:44 PM
RE: Offensive Philosophy (merged) - by NYC4jags - 03-14-2019, 01:52 PM
RE: Offensive Philosophy (merged) - by knarnn - 03-14-2019, 02:37 PM
RE: Offensive Philosophy (merged) - by JAGFAN88 - 03-14-2019, 02:40 PM
RE: Offensive Philosophy (merged) - by NYC4jags - 03-14-2019, 03:11 PM
RE: Offensive Philosophy (merged) - by Cleatwood - 03-14-2019, 03:48 PM
RE: Offensive Philosophy (merged) - by NYC4jags - 03-14-2019, 03:53 PM
RE: Offensive Philosophy (merged) - by jagibelieve - 03-14-2019, 04:18 PM
RE: Offensive Philosophy (merged) - by NYC4jags - 03-14-2019, 04:30 PM
RE: Offensive Philosophy (merged) - by NYC4jags - 03-14-2019, 04:48 PM
RE: Offensive Philosophy (merged) - by Eric1 - 03-14-2019, 07:20 PM
RE: Offensive Philosophy (merged) - by NYC4jags - 03-14-2019, 07:27 PM
RE: Offensive Philosophy (merged) - by rpr52121 - 03-14-2019, 07:31 PM
RE: Offensive Philosophy (merged) - by NYC4jags - 03-15-2019, 09:45 AM
RE: Offensive Philosophy (merged) - by NCJag - 03-15-2019, 10:34 AM
RE: Offensive Philosophy (merged) - by Cleatwood - 03-15-2019, 10:50 AM
RE: Offensive Philosophy (merged) - by Eric1 - 03-15-2019, 03:36 PM
RE: Offensive Philosophy (merged) - by rpr52121 - 03-17-2019, 03:00 PM
RE: Offensive Philosophy (merged) - by NYC4jags - 03-26-2019, 09:45 AM
RE: Offensive Philosophy (merged) - by Dimson - 03-26-2019, 09:47 AM
RE: Offensive Philosophy (merged) - by Dimson - 03-26-2019, 11:00 AM
RE: Offensive Philosophy (merged) - by JackCity - 03-26-2019, 11:33 AM
RE: Offensive Philosophy (merged) - by Cleatwood - 03-26-2019, 11:55 AM
RE: Offensive Philosophy (merged) - by Cleatwood - 03-26-2019, 01:05 PM
RE: Offensive Philosophy (merged) - by Dimson - 03-26-2019, 01:15 PM
RE: Offensive Philosophy (merged) - by dennisp3 - 05-24-2019, 09:33 AM
RE: Offensive Philosophy (merged) - by Dimson - 05-24-2019, 09:45 AM
RE: Offensive Philosophy (merged) - by I am Yoda - 09-10-2019, 04:16 PM
RE: Offensive Philosophy (merged) - by JackCity - 03-26-2019, 10:15 AM
RE: Offensive Philosophy (merged) - by NYC4jags - 03-26-2019, 03:17 PM
RE: Offensive Philosophy (merged) - by JackCity - 03-26-2019, 07:11 PM
RE: Offensive Philosophy (merged) - by NYC4jags - 03-26-2019, 07:47 PM
RE: Offensive Philosophy (merged) - by scottyg - 03-26-2019, 12:06 PM
RE: Offensive Philosophy (merged) - by JackCity - 04-30-2019, 07:49 PM
RE: Offensive Philosophy (merged) - by NYC4jags - 04-30-2019, 09:19 PM
RE: Offensive Philosophy (merged) - by NYC4jags - 05-23-2019, 04:55 PM
RE: Offensive Philosophy (merged) - by JackCity - 09-10-2019, 04:09 PM
RE: Offensive System - by JackCity - 03-07-2019, 08:04 AM
RE: Offensive System - by The Real Marty - 03-07-2019, 08:14 AM
RE: Offensive System - by JackCity - 03-07-2019, 08:31 AM
RE: Offensive System - by Dimson - 03-07-2019, 09:39 AM
RE: Offensive System - by Browntrouser - 03-07-2019, 09:52 AM
RE: Offensive System - by Dimson - 03-07-2019, 10:11 AM
RE: Offensive System - by B2hibry - 03-07-2019, 12:05 PM
RE: Offensive System - by NCJag - 03-07-2019, 12:11 PM
RE: Offensive System - by The Real Marty - 03-07-2019, 12:32 PM
RE: Offensive System - by Eric1 - 03-07-2019, 04:19 PM
RE: Offensive System - by JackCity - 03-07-2019, 04:22 PM
RE: Offensive System - by rpr52121 - 03-07-2019, 04:45 PM
RE: Offensive System - by Caldrac - 03-07-2019, 04:48 PM
RE: Offensive System - by rpr52121 - 03-07-2019, 04:54 PM
RE: Offensive System - by Cleatwood - 03-07-2019, 04:55 PM
RE: Offensive System - by Caldrac - 03-07-2019, 04:56 PM
RE: Offensive System - by NYC4jags - 03-07-2019, 04:57 PM
RE: Offensive System - by rpr52121 - 03-07-2019, 05:11 PM
RE: Offensive System - by Caldrac - 03-07-2019, 05:19 PM
RE: Offensive System - by HURRICANE!!! - 03-07-2019, 06:40 PM
RE: Offensive System - by JagsFansince1995 - 03-08-2019, 01:25 PM
RE: Offensive System - by NYC4jags - 03-08-2019, 02:39 PM
RE: Offensive System - by B2hibry - 03-08-2019, 03:57 PM
RE: Offensive System - by NYC4jags - 03-08-2019, 04:02 PM
RE: Offensive System - by JagsFansince1995 - 03-08-2019, 04:32 PM
RE: Offensive System - by rpr52121 - 03-08-2019, 05:20 PM
RE: Offensive System - by JagsFansince1995 - 03-08-2019, 05:39 PM
RE: Offensive System - by Firesky - 03-08-2019, 11:05 PM
RE: Offensive System - by Sammy - 03-09-2019, 08:44 PM
Offensive Philosophy - by JaguarJosh05 - 03-12-2019, 09:23 AM
RE: Offensive Philosophy - by TheDogCatcher - 03-12-2019, 11:35 AM



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