(04-20-2019, 12:15 PM)JackCity Wrote: We currently have a bottom 5 TE group in the NFL so yes it's definitely a need.

In order to take Hockenson at #7, you need him to be close to a top 5 TE and consistently around 800 yards a year. Can he be that? I think so but also there are several TEs available in the 3rd or 4th who may be top 15 guys and give you a consistent 600 yards a year ala a Kyle Rudolph level of TE.

Even if you think Hockenson can be great , which I think he can be, you aren't just drafting him in a vacuum.

Let says Ed Oliver is a top tier pass rusher at the next level, the combination of him and that 3rd round TE are likely going to offer more value than Hockenson and that 3rd round Dline. Same with someone like Sweat.

I'm not gonna cry about it if we draft Hockenson because I think he's bust proof, I just think you have to weigh up what's the best total value you can get from the entire draft, not just round 1

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(04-20-2019, 11:55 AM)JagNGeorgia Wrote: I don’t understand the argument that some players need to be elite or HoF quality to justify selecting them top-10. How many players, at any position, are considered great in every draft? How many are even considered really good? A handful?

If we find a reliable TE that can put up 700 +/- yards and 8+ TDs while being a decent blocker then he’s absolutely worth a top-10 pick. He doesn’t have to be a Gronk, Gates, or Gonzalez. Aside from kicker or punter, the position they play shouldn’t be held against them when deciding where to take them.

Positional value should absolutely determine where you value players in the draft. Not doing that is how you end up with Fournette at #4 overall

You can hold some positions at a higher value, but that isn’t what I’m talking about. If it’s between QB and RB, and the RB has a slightly higher grade, you take the QB. What I mean to say is that their position shouldn’t stop you from drafting them higher only because of their position. If Fournette put up a lot of yards and TDs, no one would care where we drafted him. The same thing would happen if we drafted a good TE. It’s only before the draft that we say these things.

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