(06-07-2019, 03:10 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:

(06-07-2019, 02:50 PM)JackCity Wrote: Read the conversation at the top, i'm not bashing Tony, just the willingness to go with former football coaches in the media over someones actual track record as a player. 

"This players track record is very uneven and taken in its entirety his career looks like an average/low end starter in the league" 

"Yeah well Tony Dungy said he's great and he's a former coach so"

You're creating a dynamic that didn't exist in the conversation. 

No one said "Dungy said he's good so to hell with his record" except for you suggesting the notion.

Again, I was just trying to inquire about how you weighed that particular coach's opinion. 
It carries no weight for you apparently. 
That's perfectly fine. 

For me Dungy's opinions merely serve to bolster the optimism I take from Foles performance over the past two NFL seasons.  It doesn't really change my opinion one way or the other. It's a mild affirmation.  That's all. 

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Aside from all of that Dungy debate ^ silliness  - it would seem I choose not to put as much emphasis on what Foles did 5 or 6 years ago as some of you. 
It's part of his resumé, sure,  but I'm one who thinks that old "it's a what have you done for me lately league" cliché exists for good reason. I weigh recent performance more than "historical stats."

My only real concern with Foles isn't about if he can be a slightly above average QB or not.
It's just whether he can be durable enough to play a full season.

I think the rest of his career is important because the sample size of high level performance is so small for him in recent history. He was lights out in the Vikings game, superbowl, and probably 2 other games over the last few seasons but was otherwise meh.  

His 2018 for instance was a very average/low end year taken in its totality with a ton of turnovers issues and inconsistency but I feel its glossed over because of two good games the previous year.

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