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NFL.com - Jalen Ramsey won't give Jags discount in next contract

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(06-19-2019, 05:20 PM)FBT Wrote:
(06-14-2019, 05:54 PM)D-Money Wrote: We might have the worse FO really. If you look at what has been done and what is on the verge of happening it has to be the front office. 1st wee make almost the super bowl then let  the leadership on both offense and defense with Mercedes and Poz get away. We had damn near the best secondary and we let Colvin go somewhere else. We let Fowler go which seemed to be like issues with the coach staff/FO. Our run game was good on O and all we needed to do was resign A.Rob to make our offense even better but the Front office couldn't get it right. He didnt even sign for that big of a deal in Chicago. We end up signing bums like Moncrief who did nothing. And then we resign Blake to a deal that he wasn't worth, just to release him after we sign Foles.

Look at our current situation. We just signed Foles and gave him a extra money just make him feel like we respect him (if that aint the dumbest [BLEEP] in the world) Foles is good but why spend extra, give him incentives if he exceeds expectations.Fournette had an issue with the staff we heard conversations about him possibly be traded, probably wont resign. Tevlin is out for the year and had no communication with the FO that, says something, if Poz was here, it would have probably went different with him being able to communicate. We also let T.Gib go who was good enough to keep and was apart of that top secondary we had.  
It takes time for teams gel and come together especially with the different personalities we have.

We also wasted a draft pick on Taven Bryan when there were better players and a qb that brought his team to the playoff as a rookie.

This last part is crazy to me. Since we drafted them they were supposed to be our young core. All I seen was as long we are able to lock down Ramsey, Jack and Yannick we should be ok. Now look, Yannick is holding out because they don't want to give a deal even though he exceeded expectations, and Ramsey as well. Why not lock them up now and not worry about. Ramsey already wants to play for the Titans because thats his home, now they are going to give Titans a chance to possibly get him. And if one of them leave I think the other probably go also because they see our FO doesnt care about winning. This is crazy I don't understand how any of the fans agree with the front office. We've missed on so many draft picks and been bad for so long, now that we have  good players we have the possibility of losing them. The players are not just saying this stuff to joke around they are serious.

Poz retired, and Lewis couldn't catch a cold at TE.  So, the team didn't let Poz go, and they weren't going to pay Lewis to stick around.  They needed to move on.

Did the defense suffer with the loss of Colvin?  Nope, they didn't.  

We got something for Fowler by trading him rather than letting him walk in free agency.  The fact that he was a one trick pony who took years to develop, all the while getting in trouble off the field, and fighting in the locker room.  I'd hardly call that a loss.  

The front office couldn't get it right with ARob?  It's amazing just how distorted your recollection is on ALL of the players above, but this one might be the most embarrassing one.  Robinson didn't wan to stay here.  He wanted out of Jacksonville.  The Jags weren't going to overspend on a good #2 receiver just to keep him around if he didn't want to be here.  He signed for less in Chicago than the Jags were willing to pay, so you tell me how the Jags screwed that up?

We paid Foles what he was worth.  By franchise QB standards, he's worth every penny of what they paid him unless he falls on his face, in which case the lousy FO structured the deal in a manner that would allow them to go in a different direction pretty quickly with a significant, but not cap busting deal.  

"We heard".  No, media speculated. Fournette wasn't traded, so how did the FO screw that one up?  And Fournette had an issue with the staff?  So, it wasn't his inability to show up on time for meetings or therapy, and it had nothing to do with being a monumental idiot with his ejection?  It was all about the staff?  Seriously, you're not that dumb to believe that, right?  My guess is that this is just another armchair GM telling us how bad the FO is because they have mad skills running a franchise on Madden.

We'll see if we made a mistake on Taven.  The jury is still out, but once they moved him to his natural spot, he showed improvement.  That hopefully continues this year.  To call it a wasted pick is a little premature.  Considering the fact that you're opining the loss of Fowler like he was this wonderful selection makes this claim almost comical.  I'm laughing my rear end off that you're saying we passed on a QB who is going to be a backup a year from now as teams learn to defend him.  He lead the team to the playoffs?  So, it had nothing to do with the defense, right?  How'd he do in the playoffs against teams that were equipped to defend him.  That film is out there for everyone to use in 2019.  Gus Bradley sacked him 6 times in that game, and forced him to fumble at the end of the game to go with his 50% completion rate and his interception.  If Gus could figure out how to stop him in his tracks, I'm pretty sure the rest of the league will have it figured out next season.

The Jaguars don't want to give Yannick a deal?  Who said that?  The team doesn't want to pay him $20M a year, and they shouldn't.  He's a solid player with a ton of potential, but he's not a complete DE.  He is a liability vs. the run.  The team does indeed wan to re-sign him, and they will probably get a deal done in the next couple of months.  If he wants to hold out, that's his prerogative.  Considering the fact that he hasn't actually been playing under a lucrative deal already, he really doesn't have much leverage.  I hope he saved his money if he's planning on sitting out this year.

Ramsey's contract isn't a concern this year.  They've already picked up his option, so he's going to be just fine.  The team has made it clear he's not a priority this year, and that's the smart thing to do.  They have higher priorities for contract extensions this year including Yannick.  You're pushing this Ramsey to tennessee nonsense on other social media outlets, and just as I said there, to make that claim is probably the stupidest thing I've read anywhere in recent years.  Ramsey is going to play where he's paid, and it really doesn't matter how much cap space the tacks have, or where his hometown is.  At the end of the day, the Jaguars own the upper hand in his situation, and when the time comes, they will compensate him accordingly.  This notion that they won't is just your ignorance gurgling to the surface.

To say this FO doesn't care about winning is ridiculous.  That's ALL Coughlin cares about.  If you'd pull your head out of your posterior, you might realize that.  

Go play Madden and leave football to those who can.

I think Yannick will get 20 mil a year.
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